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Old Trad Backpacker Achieves Sub-10 lb Base Weight
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Jack Elliott
(JackElliott) - F

Locale: Bend, Oregon, USA
Old Trad Backpacker Achieves Sub-10 lb Base Weight on 05/11/2012 16:59:08 MDT Print View

I have taken the ideas and advice given here and in Mike Clelland's book, "Ultralight Backpackin' Tips," and with the help of, have achieved my first ever sub-10 lb base weight (9.5 lbs, to be exact)!

Even though I'm packed for very mild, if not hot, weather with no chance of rain (no tarp), I still managed some creature comforts: a large Neoair mattress, a Monarch chair (576 grams), and a book of poetry.

Add in 1.2 lbs of food, 7 fluid ounces of The Glenlivet, and 2-1/4 lbs of evening/sleeping clothes and I'm still traveling lighter than I ever have in the past.

I'm pretty pleased.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Old Trad Backpacker Achieves Sub-10 lb Base Weight on 05/11/2012 17:02:07 MDT Print View

Congrats, Jack!

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife
Old Trad Backpacker Achieves Sub-10 lb Base Weight on 05/11/2012 17:13:54 MDT Print View

Congratulations! You're now ahead of me (I'm 10.7 lbs. without camera and fishing gear, 12.0 with camera and fishing gear). Mine does include a full tent big enough for both my dog and me.

Now get out there and have fun with it! Beautiful (if warm) weekend coming up!

Edited by hikinggranny on 05/11/2012 17:14:51 MDT.

Jack Elliott
(JackElliott) - F

Locale: Bend, Oregon, USA
I Gonna, Miss Mary, I Promise! on 05/11/2012 17:37:17 MDT Print View

My son and I are doing an overnighter tomorrow to Alder Springs, Oregon. Easy in, easy out. This is going to be my first ever test of the "want v. need" philosophy of building a gear list.

As a trad backpacker, the list always included a massive number of "just in case" items. I've never needed one of those "just in case" items, and always got tired of carrying that kitchen sink.

Besides, there is no preparing for all eventualities. Think asteroid strike.

So, yeah, this dinky pack load will be cool.

I am bringing a little notepad and pencil, and will make a page with a column called "better bring next time," and one titled, "why did I bring this"?

Now if I was some kind of mega-brain with something better than a Magic 8-Ball for prognostication, that page would come home blank.

I am cheating a bit: having cut my teeth backpacking in the dry areas in SoCal, I have a good sense of what one needs in dry and hot conditions, and that's what's predicted for this weekend for where we are going. And, amazingly (to a SoCal backpacker) there is this creek with plenty of fresh water in it right at hand.

But out of my comfort zone is the crazy and difficult to predict conditions on the eastern slopes of the Oregon Cascade Mountains that will test me later in season when they open up. So add to list: tarp.

Jeepers, come think of it, that's about all. Oh, and stakes for the tarp. Maybe a windbreaker.

I'm a three-season camper. I'd be tempted to camp in winter if (a) I could cross-country ski, but this metal knee says "no," and (b) if I had another warm body, such as a big Labrador Retriever to go with, but Mrs Elliott says "no."

Andrew McAlister
(mcalista) - F
Double up on 05/12/2012 06:39:55 MDT Print View

Double up on the Glenlivet, and you could care less if you left the rest of your gear at home.

Jack Elliott
(JackElliott) - F

Locale: Bend, Oregon, USA
Much Wisdom on 05/12/2012 07:03:49 MDT Print View

Andrew, there is much wisdom in what you say.

Jared Hopkins
Re: Old Trad Backpacker Achieves Sub-10 lb Base Weight on 05/12/2012 19:37:09 MDT Print View

Scotch. What an awesome gear addition!


Jack Elliott
(JackElliott) - F

Locale: Bend, Oregon, USA
Indeed, but barely on 05/13/2012 18:54:08 MDT Print View

7.5 fluid ounces of Scotch has enough GoAPPPN (Grams of Alcohol Per Person Per Night) to be sufficient, but I did take pity on my son who forgot to bring his own booze so I shared a generous with him. Next trip the boy has to bring his own.

I want to report back that I enjoyed this hike a lot, and found the lighter pack weight to be wonderful. In fact, for the return trip I experimentally left the hip belt unfastened and the pack felt just fine.

But while in camp I decided that next go-round I needed to add light fleece glovies and a nail clippers. My fingernails frequently shatter when in the dry outdoors, leaving behind nasty snarly shards and edges. Central Oregon's High Desert area is quite dry this time of the year.

David Drake
(DavidDrake) - F

Locale: North Idaho
Re: Indeed, but barely on 05/13/2012 22:10:22 MDT Print View

>"Central Oregon High Desert"
Mind if I ask where? (Future trip planning).

Luke Schmidt
(Cameron) - MLife

Locale: The WOODS
cool on 05/13/2012 22:23:02 MDT Print View

Jack glad your trip worked out well.