Zion Nat'l Park Traverse 2012, aka "The Trans-Zion", BPL Group Run-Round #2
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Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
Zion Nat'l Park Traverse 2012, aka "The Trans-Zion", BPL Group Run-Round #2 on 05/11/2012 01:45:39 MDT Print View

It's happening! The Grand Canyon R2R2R group run this past April turned out to be one hell of a weekend for the small band of endurance/trail running fiends that braved their ugly faces (*Mike Moore is exempt from my last comment inpart because of his mustache and the diameter of his arms).

What: A full East/West traverse (~48 miles) of Zion National Park in a single day. This will be done in the fashion of a self supported run- this is NOT intended to be an overnight or multiday trip, so an honest understanding of one's physical condition and mental resolve before signing up should be seriously weighed in your planning.

Zion Traverse


When: Saturday, October 27th, 2012

Where: Zion National Park, UT (Lee's Pass> E. Rim) *traverse direction TBD.

Who: Anyone that fully understands the difficulty and commitment required in doing a self-supported wilderness run of this nature.


Stoke inducing run reports and "ZT" beta:

http://andrewskurka.com/adventures/zion-national-park-traverse/

http://adventurerun.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/zion-traverse/

http://www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/transziontrek.cfm

http://cedarandsand.blogspot.com/2010/07/trans-zion.html

http://www.suluk46.com/adventure%20-%20Zion%20National%20Park.html


*I will update this original posting and maintain an interest list of runners as time goes on, so click the "Watch this thread" button in the right hand corner to stay current as details get flushed out.

Edited by Eugeneius on 07/19/2012 20:56:00 MDT.

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: Zion Nat'l Park Traverse 2012, aka "The Trans-Zion", BPL Group Run-Round #2 on 05/11/2012 07:23:32 MDT Print View

for those who aren't aware, Eugene leads guided tours at Disney World during the non running season.

Watch button activated, interest high,
depending on what date you all come up with.
the later you can make it the more likely I'll be able to show.

Edited by asandh on 05/11/2012 08:50:14 MDT.

Jeff Gerke
(mtnrunner) - M

Locale: Utah
Very Interested on 05/11/2012 07:48:24 MDT Print View

I am highly interested in this. I did most of this traverse a few years ago. We did the 39 mile option ending at the Grotto.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Zion on 05/11/2012 07:50:19 MDT Print View

Eugene- was hoping you would post this up- I'm in :)

if it can be pulled off late Sept/early Oct the better for me (mid October and later gets into our big game season and I can't get time off)

also have been reading two school of thoughts on east bound vs west bound- many feel east to west there is less climbing, but the tough climb comes near the end of the run (Grotto to East Entrance), others west bound feel that getting the tough climb out of the way earlier (Grotto to West Rim Trail) is better

one other possibility is to do both, have two groups going opposite directions- this would make shuttling easier

anyway I've been wanting to go to Zion for a long time, hope this is the time

Mike

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Zion Nat'l Park Traverse 2012, aka "The Trans-Zion", BPL Group Run-Round #2 on 05/11/2012 08:39:50 MDT Print View

Oh yes. It's on and I will be there.

As mentioned before, I would be good with either the last weekend of September or first weekend of October.

I'm guessing it would be a similar affair to the R2R2R: get in Thursday night or Friday morning, hang out, run Saturday, and head home Sunday?

Edited by xnomanx on 05/11/2012 08:42:09 MDT.

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: Zion Nat'l Park Traverse 2012, aka "The Trans-Zion", BPL Group Run-Round #2 on 05/11/2012 09:24:09 MDT Print View

Something to shoot for :
new FKT on Zion Traverse, May 3 ?

New Zion FKT

brian blair
(donkey)

Locale: Silverado Canyon
Definitely on 05/11/2012 09:42:09 MDT Print View

I'm in. Any weekend is good for me as long as I have a few weeks notice.

I'm getting excited already.

BB

Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
Zion Nat'l Park Traverse 2012, aka "The Trans-Zion", BPL Group Run-Round #2" on 05/11/2012 10:32:24 MDT Print View

Last weekend of Sep. or first of Oct. is also ideal for me as well. I have a 50 miler the 3rd weekend in Oct and would like to have a small buffer to recover before going into that, but if necessary, I would totally pass on the 50 to run the Traverse with all of you.

Any idea when the peak time is for Zion traverses? Mid Oct?

Dan recently sent me a link from folks that are starting to offer support for adventure based running and apparently they plan to offer run support in Zion the second week of Oct.

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Zion Nat'l Park Traverse 2012, aka "The Trans-Zion", BPL Group Run-Round #2 on 05/11/2012 11:37:34 MDT Print View

For some reason the Paul Simon song "Still Crazy" popped into my mind, unbidden, when I read this. No offense intended.

Jeff Gerke
(mtnrunner) - M

Locale: Utah
Zion Traverse on 05/11/2012 13:30:27 MDT Print View

When I did this before I had a non-running friend meet us at the Kolob Reservoir road crossing with aid. We also got water from springs at Potato Hollow on the West Rim. And of course Zion Canyon could be another resupply point.

Adan Lopez
(Lopez) - F

Locale: San Gabriel Valley
Unfinished business on 05/11/2012 15:54:52 MDT Print View

Awesome, another crack at the ultra distance, and with an awesome crew again. Super stoked. Zion looks amazeballs.

Zion To do list:

shift my schedule
beg my wife
heal my knee
trick my boss
keep up with Wisner

I got this.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: Unfinished business on 05/11/2012 15:59:45 MDT Print View

My Zion to do list (strangely similar to Adan's):


Beg wife: Done.
Vacation Time: Done.
Heal my knee: in progress
Keep Adan from getting faster than me: TBD

Excited already.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
business on 05/11/2012 19:34:07 MDT Print View

begged wife- shakes head :)

vacation- got a lot of that

injuries- hopefully not too many between then and now

I'm half way of thinking about driving (although flights to Las Vegas are usually very cheap), have a new Tacoma that would be fun to drive down

also excited!

Angelo Radano
(zalmen_mlotek)

Locale: New England
Thinking about it on 05/14/2012 11:58:01 MDT Print View

I would love to be apart of this. I am quite new to trail running and I am not sure if starting a training plan now would give me enough time to get up to ultra distances by Fall (but maybe I am thinking too conservatively). I have done two 10K races, fastest time was 7min pace and I have a half marathon trail race over Mt. Greylock (MA) next month. What are your thoughts? Is this achievable for me? I think I have a good base, I just haven't done this long of a run in one go.

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: Thinking about it on 05/14/2012 15:57:12 MDT Print View

Angelo - its not about speed so much as it is about survival.
if you are healthy and already in good shape then 5 months should be bordline enough time to get in the kind of shape this event requires.

I would not be concerned about 7min pace 10k's.
rather get out there and slowly jog/power walk 20 miles, then 25 miles, then maybe even 30 miles.
do this at least once every 2 weeks. do it every week if you are in good enough shape so that you won't injure yourself.
do not be concerned with time on these runs, just be concerned with doing them, with maybe a 5-8 lb pack on your back.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Re: Thinking about it on 05/14/2012 16:50:04 MDT Print View

I was (am :)) still a newbie when it comes to these long distances. I just put my mind to it and started off slowly, trying to add mileage weekly and incrementally increasing my long run (usually on Saturdays). Check out our old training log thread for an idea of what kind of mileage guys were racking up leading up towards our Grand Canyon run. I figured worse case scenario for me was I'd be in really good shape :)

If we run east to west, there is a good bail out @ the Grotto, still a long way (~37 miles), but less than 47 :)

I say go for it!

Angelo Radano
(zalmen_mlotek)

Locale: New England
Thanks for tips and support on 05/14/2012 19:06:50 MDT Print View

Thank you for the support. I am going to mull it over, look over logistics ($$) and hopefully I can join you. Watching the thread and will keep an eye on what date you pick.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Re: Thanks for tips and support on 05/14/2012 19:26:42 MDT Print View

as you check into logistics, assuming you're flying (kind of a long drive for you :)), look into flights into Las Vegas- you can often find cheap flights to Vegas and you're only 160 miles from Zion NP

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
date on 05/20/2012 18:43:08 MDT Print View

should we at least tentatively set a date? last week of September work? I know a few guys have something going on in late October, having a month in between might be more advantageous than 3 weeks????????

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Zion Nat'l Park Traverse 2012, aka "The Trans-Zion", BPL Group Run-Round #2 on 07/10/2012 22:13:27 MDT Print View

Is this still happening?
Anyone out there wanna do it still?