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Trick to sleep confortably on a thin CCF sleeping pad
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Paiolo Montanel
(Paiolo) - F
Trick to sleep confortably on a thin CCF sleeping pad on 05/10/2012 01:00:54 MDT Print View

Assuming you are a side sleeper:

Sleeping on a 7mm (1/4") CCF sleeping pad may not be the top of the confort, but I've found this simple trick to sleep over it with confort similar to sleeping on a 2-3cm (1") pad:

While side-sleeping, I KEEP AN INFLATABLE PILLOW UNDER MY CHEST (longitudinally): it helps the spine to stay straight and uniformly discharges an important part of body weight over the pillow, so the weight graving over my hip and my shoulder is greatly reduced!

An inflatable pillow has little weight (30-60 gr - 1-2 Oz) and can greatly increase sleeping confort, only be sure to find the right inflating level for you: it is often a lot lower than you would think at first glance (for me, it is 1/3 of max capacity).

You obviously need some other thing for using as a pillow to support the head

I'd like someone else to try it and give me her impression.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - M

Locale: Santa Rosa, CA
Re: Trick to sleep confortably on a thin CCF sleeping pad on 05/10/2012 05:36:29 MDT Print View

That sounds interesting... thanks! One of my hiking buddies dug a "hip hole", basically a depression in the ground for sleeping on his side. He said it helped a lot.

Ben Crocker
(alexdrewreed) - M

Locale: Kentucky
Pillow on 05/10/2012 08:12:17 MDT Print View

I can see how that would help. What kind of pillow are you using?

Daryl and Daryl
(lyrad1) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
Re: Trick to sleep confortably on a thin CCF sleeping pad on 05/10/2012 09:01:24 MDT Print View

I do the same using my foam float coat instead of an inflatable pad and I find that it does help.

I also raise my feet by placing them on top of my boots (which are inside grocery bags because they are dirty).

Paiolo Montanel
(Paiolo) - F
Re: on 05/10/2012 10:53:10 MDT Print View

@Justin Baker: the concept is similar... but IMHO the pillow if A LOT more confortable... try it!

@Ben Crocker: the pillow I use is something like this:
...but a lot less inflated

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife
Trick to sleep confortably on a thin CCF sleeping pad on 05/10/2012 11:57:05 MDT Print View

There does come a time in life that none of these options work! Throughout the years, my sleeping pads kept getting thinner and thinner until my hip bones rebelled and I spent the nights in pain. At least that's what it felt like--of course it was me, not the pad! Here's the progression:

Childhood and teen years--no pad at all

20's and 30's--cheap blue foam pad

40's and 50's--one of the original Thermarests

60's--2" thick, heavy Thermarest LE

70's--started with a POE Insulmat Max Thermo (2.5"), now have a 3.5" thick insulated air pad from the late lamented Kooka Bay. The last is actually the lightest pad I've had since the blue foam days, only 13 oz.

Edited by hikinggranny on 05/10/2012 13:32:36 MDT.

Dave Triano
(Dtriano) - MLife

Locale: Desolation Wilderness
Advanced equipment------;) on 05/10/2012 19:28:01 MDT Print View

Thank you Mary!
I'm 46 and I have 'jumped' your age/comfort ratio a bit, I have proudly arrived at the use of my Kooka Bay downmat last year. As with many, I swung to ridiculous minimal weight and then swung back to 'acceptable low, low weight' for superior comfort. It's darn well worth it to me to get a great nights sleep, I can play 'Lucan the Wolf Boy' with my cook set.......;) (obscure 70's reference there.....,)
On this theme I am building a roomy cuben tunnel tent to further identify with Roger(shhhhh, top secret)..... Thank you both for your wisdom, it's hard to come by in today's world.


Steve B
(geokite) - F

Locale: Southern California
Low Back on 05/16/2012 13:53:35 MDT Print View

I find that if I sleep on my back, legs flat, my lower back starts to hurt. This is on any pad, even my bed at home.

So I've tried putting an inflatable pillow under my lower back. No more discomfort. I've been using the inflatable pillow from Jacks R Better, (only $1.75 right now) I inflate it ever so slightly.

I'm hoping this may allow me to use a closed cell foam pad, instead of an air pad. More testing to do!


Richard Gless
(rgless) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Trick to sleep confortably on a thin CCF sleeping pad on 05/16/2012 14:06:36 MDT Print View

The old fashioned boy scout way was to scoop out a hollow under your hips and shoulders. This works well with a light foam pad until you get a little older.

Adan Lopez
(Lopez) - F

Locale: San Gabriel Valley
sleeping on foam on 05/16/2012 14:07:26 MDT Print View

Paiolo, do you mean that you simply hug a pillow against your chest? I'm trying to imagine putting a pillow "under" my chest while sleeping on my side and i cant see how you would do that. I sleep on foam most of my short trips, so tips are a good thing.

Putting a pillow under the lower back i get. Maybe i should start carrying a second pillow for tricks like this.

Also, dig a small depression for the hips, works well for me. However the most important part for me is the head pillow, if my head is not elevated enough i get neck pain, shoulder pain and cant sleep. So I usually put either my shoes or a flat rock under pillow to elevate enough.

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(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: (...)
... on 05/16/2012 14:23:25 MDT Print View


Edited by RogerDodger on 06/17/2015 10:37:57 MDT.

Rog Tallbloke
(tallbloke) - F

Hip comfort on 05/23/2012 16:21:40 MDT Print View

Get off the trail and camp on rough ground. Every bump finds a hollow. Besides, you'll be too tired to care. ;-)

Paiolo Montanel
(Paiolo) - F
Re: Low Back on 05/24/2012 05:03:44 MDT Print View

I'm happy to see all that nice comments here!

@geokite: thank for the link to that cheap and light inflatable pillow

@Lopez: as I'm sleeping on my side, the pillow goes under the side of the chest, just to keep it a little (VERY little) elevated over shoulder and hips: instead of digging a hole under hips and shoulder, I'm elevating the chest: the concept is the same

Obviously head require a bigger support: I usually use my shoes or another (more inflated) pillow for it

(PS: I'm new of this there a way to get notificated by email when there is a new post on this thread?)

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(RogerDodger) - F

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... on 05/24/2012 09:17:43 MDT Print View


Edited by RogerDodger on 06/17/2015 10:37:24 MDT.