What does this unit weigh complete (with the wood burner piece)?

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Edited by cadyak on 04/26/2012 17:40:53 MDT.

This seems like a great stove system, however for wood burning I think I would still stick with the firefly. It looks like any additional wood added to the Caldera would have to be done from the top correct? taking the pot on and off to add sticks is not as good a design as the side port option on the firefly. Waiting for a bed of coals is also a negative in my opinion of course. Others have pointed out soot is an issue too. The firefly is a clean burner much like the emberlit in that regard.

IF I was going alcohol or Nesbit, it would seem the Caldera has the advantage over the firefly... but seeing as those fuel sources are my second choice, I would be better off with the firefly design than I would be with the Caldera.

The resons would be that using the firefly for wood would be easier in terms of adding more wood to the fire, more control of the amount of heat,and the volume savings in my pack.

Of course, I fully get that my criteria is not the same as everyone else's and this is all opinion, but there is my two cents worth.

"The firefly is a clean burner much like the emberlit in that regard."

Those stoves don't leave soot on the pots?

"IF I was going alcohol or Nesbit, it would seem the Caldera has the advantage over the firefly... but seeing as those fuel sources are my second choice, I would be better off with the firefly design than I would be with the Caldera.

The resons would be that using the firefly for wood would be easier in terms of adding more wood to the fire, more control of the amount of heat,and the volume savings in my pack."

You can add the wood to the Ti-Tri without taking the pot off. Look at image 7 and you'll see the hole created in the handle slot when the pot is on stakes in wood burning mode.

http://www.traildesigns.com/stoves/caldera-sidewinder


The weight specs are on there as well. The vary by model and what size pot you use.

My first choice of fuel is also wood and I'm happy with the Ti-Tri. I only heat water so I don't care about heat control. But Hikin' Jim did cook a salmon and cheese omelet on mine when I sent it him for testing.

http://adventuresinstoving.blogspot.com/2012/02/wood-fired-cooking-ii.html

I personally don't mind carrying mine in my pot but I understand wanting to save space. I use one of those flat, fold up cups for soup and hot chocolate and love it.

Sounds like you have found the right stove for you and that's what really matters. Have fun with it.

Edited by rlnunix on 04/26/2012 16:45:36 MDT.

enjoy your stove.

Edited by cadyak on 04/26/2012 17:55:28 MDT.

Thank you Brent, I will!

"Those stoves don't leave soot on the pots"?

VERY little. They also produce very little smoke after you get them up to temp. I was very suprised I did not have to worry about moving out of the smoke path using these types of stoves. The emberlit especially shines in this regard (unless it is just the wood in the areas I go backpacking such as south Arkansas in the Ouchita National forest).

I do see now on that pic that the Caldera has a feeder hole,however it would still take the extra processing of wood to make it fit inside the Caldera though while the firefly I could have a few 3 foot sticks the width of my thumb that I could just feed to the stove as needed... I know, I am lazy but I like easy :)

My Sidewinder W/ Inferno option weighs 3.6 ounces with the following:

outer ti cone
inner ti gassifier inverted cone
round grate screen
circular 1/2" high grate screen stand (same material as grate screen)
titanium ground sheet
two ti pot support stakes
two Tyvek storage sheaths

(3 cup hard anodized aluminum pot & lid not included in stove weight)

> For woodburning trips (usually winter in my Las Vegas area) I carry ESBIT or Firelite fuel tab for starting fires at 1/2 tab per fire. Unfortunately there is no available hardwood easily found in the mountain west so I have to use dead pine, fir or cedar (preferred) twigs. Back in my home state of Pennsylvania all kinds of hardwoods are available for hot, long burning fires with nice beds of coals.

BTW, To "Simmer" with any woodburning stove one can carry an aluminum diffuser plate.
The plate should have 4 small aluminum bolts fastened on it for "stand-off" of the pot. Lowe's or Home Depot should carry the bolts & nuts. Try using aluminum star washers.

One bolt is placed in the center of the plate & 3 bolts are placed in a triangle pattern in a diameter say, 1/4" less than the pot bottom diameter. The 3 outer bolt pattern keeps the pot from wobbling as it may with a 4 outer bolt pattern if the plate gets warped or bent a bit. Be SURE the bolts do not interfere with the top of the stove. Best to try to place them inside the stove top edges. This somewhat secures the diffuser plate from sliding off.

Edited by Danepacker on 04/27/2012 12:30:13 MDT.