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Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
2012 Gorilla First Impressions on 04/19/2012 22:02:03 MDT Print View

Received my new gorilla in the mail today figured I would share some of the new things I noticed that are not apparent on the gossamer gear site.
upgraded hoop
Upgraded hoop with neck cradle
belt
Hipbelt is now foam from end to end, not just the wings
hipbelt pkt
pkt
Hipbelt pockets are noticably smaller than the large pockets they offer separate. This is a bummer as I kept my steripen in my hip belt before.
side pkt
Side pockets have the same volume it seems but the elastic is tighter at the top. Should help with stuff falling out but might make getting a waterbottle back in a little more difficult.
magmagnet
Crazy little magnet closure on the top. Very interested to see how it fares in the field.
frame openclosed
New retention system for the frame. Much much better than those little Velcro tabs on the old one
bucbuck
Lighter buckles and ladderlocks

Sorry for the bad cell phone pics. Im doing 5 days in Sespe next week and will report back how it feels on trail.

Edited by CLebow on 04/19/2012 22:03:17 MDT.

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - M

Locale: Cascadia
2012 Gorilla on 04/19/2012 22:10:17 MDT Print View

Nice report and pics. Thanks.

Joseph R
(Dianoda) - MLife

Locale: Chicago, IL
Re: 2012 Gorilla First Impressions on 04/19/2012 22:11:17 MDT Print View

I really like the neck cradle shape of the stay - sometimes I wish the stay in my SMD Swift had a similar bend across the top.

Will Inman
(Empacitator) - MLife

Locale: Western Australia
Re: 2012 Gorilla First Impressions on 04/19/2012 22:28:02 MDT Print View

Looks very nice- what do you think of the new top pocket? What kind of size is it?

Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
Re: Re: 2012 Gorilla First Impressions on 04/19/2012 22:36:32 MDT Print View

Top pocket is 8"x9.5" seems big enough for whatever you would want to have close at hand. I could fit my 1st aid and some snacks plus my steripen no problem

Edited by CLebow on 04/19/2012 22:37:33 MDT.

Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
Magnet? on 04/19/2012 22:43:34 MDT Print View

"Magnet closure"?

A superfluous addition that adds no functional value to the pack. Where do they come up with this stuff?

Stuff your junk in the pack and roll the thing up.

Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
Re: Magnet? on 04/19/2012 22:51:45 MDT Print View

It seems like you don't roll this pack up, with the buckles on the lid you kind of tuck and fold. The lid pocket is not separate but sewn on the extension collar.bafxdc

Konrad .
(Konrad1013) - MLife
Shoulder straps on 04/20/2012 06:45:07 MDT Print View

Cody, how are the shoulder straps now sewn onto the pack? Straight across or at a curve? Are thy still so wide that they rub the user's neck? Thanks

Snap Judgement
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Eel River Valley
Re: Shoulder straps on 04/20/2012 06:49:18 MDT Print View

On the GG website you can see the straps are sewn on a curve. Still pretty wide.

Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
Re: Re: Shoulder straps on 04/20/2012 09:14:23 MDT Print View

The straps are still wide but they have been narrowed by 3/4". Old straps were 4" these are 3 1/4". I'll have to load it up to make a call on weather this was enough. On my old gorilla I used pipe insulation to get it narrower.

Chad Poindexter
(Stick) - F

Locale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
Top flap on 04/20/2012 09:24:10 MDT Print View

That is interesting the way that the top flap is actually integrated into the extension collar. I was expecting an actual flap... I still wish that the top pocket wasn't there though. It doesn't seem like it would be of much use anyway if the "flap" is being used for vertical compression...seems like it would make the pocket flat and useless...hard to actually use. I dunno, what are your thoughts on the top pocket Cody?

Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
Re: Top flap on 04/20/2012 09:33:09 MDT Print View

I'm holding off on making a full judgment until I get a chance to load it up, which will be tonight. It does seem that it would become unusable if you maxed out the volume of the main compartment but thats just a guess based on the fact that there is not much extra fabric to let it expand away from pack.

Terry Trimble
(socal-nomad) - F

Locale: North San Diego county
lighter buckles on 04/20/2012 09:49:18 MDT Print View

It looks like GG are also using thiner webbing than the flat weave nylon webbing in the photo. It in between cross grain ribbon and flat weave they are using the ITW Nexus waveloc series of buckles made for thiner webbing. The buckle are pretty beefy in the waveloc series with a smaller foot print.
I really like the photo of the magnet closer they look neodymium magnets,How many magnets closers are their in the pack. It will be a lot better than velcro that can get dirty with brush on the fussy side of the velcro.
Terry

Edited by socal-nomad on 04/20/2012 09:56:02 MDT.

Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
Re: lighter buckles on 04/20/2012 10:40:20 MDT Print View

There is only one magnet closure on the top center of the main compartment. I agree that they are most likely neodymium magnets. They have quite a bit of power.

Edited by CLebow on 04/20/2012 10:44:32 MDT.

Tommy Franzen
(Tomlike) - F

Locale: Pacific Wonderland
weight on 04/20/2012 12:41:58 MDT Print View

Is the weight pretty close to the listed specs?

Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
Shoulder straps on 04/21/2012 08:33:55 MDT Print View

So I went out last night for a little stealth camp to try out the pack. Shoulder straps feel great. They are about as wide as they could be without rubbing on my neck. Side pockets still are easy to get water in and out of but it does take an extra 1/2 second due to the tighter elastic. Top pocket fit my snacks no problem with the light load in the main compartment. Gotta say I love the updated pack

Edited by CLebow on 04/21/2012 08:38:32 MDT.

Jon Leibowitz
(jleeb) - F

Locale: SW Colorado
My first impressions... on 04/21/2012 08:51:36 MDT Print View

I also ordered this pack.

My very brief impressions:

The magnet is cool concept, but that combined with the pocket on top, makes for an annoying entry way because when full, it is weighed down and flops over constantly.

It also begs the question, why? It doesn't add much function but does add a little weight.

The shoulder pads are really comfortable and the new stay wraps nicely around your back.

I wish the pockets on the waist belt were larger. They are too small for what I want to put in there.

Finally, the sternum strap on mine broke 2 days after receiving it while just filling the pack and trying it on in my living room. It came undone at the threading on the right shoulder strap. I am quite disappointed with that - and alas, the pack is going back to GG.

Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
Re: My first impressions... on 04/21/2012 09:16:09 MDT Print View

I agree that larger hip belt pockets would be ideal. I loved keeping my steripen in there so I could treat water without taking the pack off. I actually got into the habit of just scooping up a liter with my cut bladder while crossing waterand treating while walking. I might have to get a shoulder strap pocket to keep this ability. Thanks for the heads up on the sternum strap, I will be keeping an eye on it. I'm still indifferent to the magnet. It closed the bag so it did its job.

Edited by CLebow on 04/21/2012 09:18:38 MDT.

James Adams
(El_Canyon) - M

Locale: USA
_ on 04/21/2012 10:41:18 MDT Print View

Thanks for the great info on this pack. I am leaning towards getting one.

From what I have seen, the sternum strap attachment design is needlessly complicated. Being barrel chested, I find I do need a sternum strap but I will likely cut this one off and just sew on my own with a Speedy Stitcher. Sounds like the magnet may need to be cut off too.

I'd be very interested in hearing how well this pack carries heavier loads. I try to go as light as anyone but sometimes I'm the family mule and I need the capability of a good internal frame.

Cody Lebow
(CLebow)

Locale: Orange County
Re: _ on 04/21/2012 10:49:18 MDT Print View

I have carried around 25lbs in the old model with little discomfort. With the upgraded hipbelt and harness I expect this to carry even better.