Does anyone know where in the US I can get a nesting tent pole? Meaning one where the sections of the rigid pole nest inside each other for transport?

I have collapsible alloy pole for my Golite Hex 3, but it is bulky when packed. It's also not very light. I want a traditional nesting pole like a Mostert brand one, but don't know where to get one in the US.

http://www.kampeergoed.nl/tentstok-lichtgewicht-aluminium-mostert-pc-8840.html?language=en&sort=2a

Edited by Tjaard on 04/18/2012 09:38:11 MDT.

Eureka have some in 2' length but are heavier and possibly much stronger than you need.
One you could look at is the Ruta Locura 0.600 tent pole.
It is in 4 sections (tot 66") but under 5 oz..
http://www.rutalocura.com/Tent_Poles.html
(out of stock right now...)
Franco

Those Kampeer poles are heavy and big. Diameters of 16 - 20 mm or more. They are good for big tents, but our poles are almost always under 9 mm.

Cheers

9mm pole for an Hex 3 ?
(if my assumption is correct...)
Franco

> 9mm pole for an Hex 3 ?
Well, why not?
The poles I use on my tunnels are ~7 mm CF.

Note that, properly pitched, there should be very little sideways force on the Hex pole. I really doubt it would normally reach buckling stress.

I guess you could go to 10 or 11 mm if you wanted, but 20 mm seems over the top.

Cheers

But the diameter is probably big for a hex 3.

Ours nest from an inch doubt side diameter down

If the poles nest, some will have a bigger diameter, which makes them heavier than necesary

Better to have all the sections the minimum diameter that's strong enough

Roger, your poles are arced poles in a tunnel, not straight up poles like for a tarp or pyramid etc. I have not tried carbon poles but any alloy pole I have seen in the <11 mm range is fairly bendy at 6'/180cm tall.


The Mostert poles are not that heavy, about 300g which is similar to the the stock pole that came with my Hex3.
I don't think with thin walled tubing the extra diameter of the bottom sections adds that much weight.

This was in regasrds to someone on Bikepacking.net asking about packed size of a Shangrila. When I went to check my Hex3 I noticed how huge the pole was and started wondering if it could be smaller, like my old Mostert tarp poles.

I agree that an overall lighter option would be a minimal diameter carbon pole.

Dimensions and nesting

Put the larger section in the middle as its stronger.

For a 6ft tent usually .75 of a strong material is worthy. Shorter tents require less.

From Roger :
9mm pole for an Hex 3 ?
Well, why not?
The poles I use on my tunnels are ~7 mm CF.

Note that, properly pitched, there should be very little sideways force on the Hex pole. I really doubt it would normally reach buckling stress.

well I can see why you have this thing about tunnel tents...(and comment about the tension required on the Warmlite)
The way I set up my pole supported tents , I bend TWO 9mm poles tied together at a 115cm height.
The standard height of an Hex 3 is 168cm , I could bend a 168cm long 9mm thick pole just by looking at it...
(could be the reason why my tents don't fall down...)

Tjaard
Again I see that you can either go lighter (as with the Ruta Locura CF poles) or a bit heavier but more compact (nesting) but not lighter and more compact at the same time.

Kevin
By nesting it was meant as in folding trekking poles, one section inside the other.
Franco

Edited by Franco on 04/18/2012 15:41:13 MDT.

Ours nest inside each other to minimize pack space. Middle sections are larger and stronger, they use telescoping pin locks to connect.

Hi Seekoutside,

Your 'accessoires' page(which is where I assume poles are) doesn't work.

Edited by Tjaard on 04/18/2012 18:20:13 MDT.

We were moving our site yesterday so some stuff was not functional and some technical details were encountered. It should be fine now, but it's back on the old hosting solution.

Tjaard

The .600 Ruta Locura poles were engineered specifically for tents that height. Properly engineered carbon fiber tent poles, should be 50%-60% the weight of their aluminum counterparts. If they are not, they are just for specs on paper. Depending on how serious your need is, I can build you a pole that both telescopes for compactness, and is lighter, it can be done. Also, the .600 poles are a standard ferruled section, over ferruled section, which transfers load properly through the axis of the tubes. Using push buttons, cants the sections, does not transfer load evenly, and creates failure points. Also it requires thicker wall sections, because all the load is transfered to a single point where the small button takes all the load. With the tubes having a thicker cross section, along with the larger(unnessary) sections, as mentioned aboved, such telescoping poles offer nothing over good alloy aluminum poles.

Oddly at an estate sale 2 weeks ago I picked up ( I think ) 8 nested aluminum tent poles . Each pole has 4 sections. The pole weighs 12 oz. The bottom section is 1" Diam and they graduate 1/8 " per section making the top section 5/8" diam.

Asselbled each pole is 6'2" effectively making them 6 foot poles considering the taper to go ito the tent grommet. Nested length is 21"

IF you would like I can list them on my Ebay seller site with a buy it now price so you do not have to suffer the delays of a bidding war. I would prefer to sell them via my Ebay auctions so that you and I are both protected. ( plus I will have lots of photos of them there )

I know that 12 oz is not light by backpacking standards, but there are pretty heavy duty poles. I am guesing they were dining fly corner poles. There are not high tech, but are in excellent condition.

Also let me know how many you would want and I can group them that way as an item. If you give me a fair price offer I will list them on Ebay with a buy it now for that price. ( plus actual shipping costs via usps )

YOu can contact me at WillTopper@aol.com . I have at least 6 of them but there might be as many as 10 ..... they are out in my garage.

PS I am not a backpacker so I will not be on this forum ...I just happened to run across this as I was looking up information about nested ten poles.

What maximum length are you looking for?

REI has the Brunton Monopod:

http://www.rei.com/product/728693/brunton-monopod

Lists at 9.5 oz / 269 grams, but that is with the camera attachment, foam handle & strap, none of which would be needed if carried solely as a tarp pole. The one at the Portland store has a black top instead of the silver aluminum top in the picture.

Max length = 158.75 centimeters
Min length = 64.77 centimeters

Take a look at some raw carbon fiber tubing:
www.rockwestcomposites.com
They have nice telescoping sizes.
I see 3/8" tubing at 1/3 oz per foot.

Sorry for the drift, but--wow that site gets me dreaming while I click around.

Interesting trekking poles: http://www.rockwestcomposites.com/browse/carbon-fiber-tubing/other-tubing