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John Castro-Rappl
(Jabber) - MLife
Bear Bag Cord Storage on 04/06/2012 08:41:22 MDT Print View

Using a bear bag for the first time this weekend, so I just picked up a 50' length of orange 2.75mm "Glocord" to use as my line. Here's the question - how do I store it? I know several people just toss it in the rock sacks, but I was thinking of using my stake bag for that, so it wouldn't be dedicated storage. Ideally, I'd like to keep it from getting tangled.

The cord came on a small plastic spool - this might be heresy, but is there any problem with keeping it/storing it on that while hiking? It's not heavy, keeps it from getting tangled, and seems like it'd save some time cleaning it up. Might even be able to double as a rock sack if necessary.

Maybe there are already some people who do this, but I tired searching for it and didn't come up with anything. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Also, apparently a bit of a typo in the title. Can't seem to edit the thread title itself, though.

Edited by Jabber on 04/06/2012 08:43:29 MDT.

Daniel Cox
(COHiker) - F

Locale: San Isabel NF
Well... on 04/06/2012 14:15:55 MDT Print View

2.75 is pretty thin for a bear bag cord. I have no doubts it'll support all the food you could want, but I'd expect it to 'saw' into the tree limb. That damages the cord, the tree, and could possibly get your bag stuck in the sap-filled saw-mark. I personally eat the weight and use 6mm. Not everyone will agree with that, of course.

As for storage: I have had success storing military-issue '550' nylon cord in a cut down paper towel tube. I spooled it around my arm (palm to elbow) then folded it in half. If its a good fit the friction holds it in. Otherwise there's a taped-on paper cap. This may or may not be lighter than your spool.
I typically just suck it up and do a little untangling before hanging the food.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Cord Management on 04/06/2012 16:38:41 MDT Print View

John,

Cord Management

If you are going to hang and you are NOT in a "Smart Bear" area, my recommendation is to go with 2 cords. The Ring Line has a simple pulley or a belay ring attached to one end. Throw it over the limb (you may need a rock bag for throwing mass), let the ring fall to the ground, thread Line Two through the ring. Pull the ring up no closer than 3' of the limb and tie it off, while keeping both ends of Line Two on the ground. Tie your food to one end of the Line Two, and haul it up. Tie off the Ring Line and Line Two high and away from each other. (And be gentle on the tie-off with this thin cord, or you risk damaging thin bark or young trees.)

To retrieve the Ring Line, lower your food, undo your Ring Line tie-off, then pull on both ends of Line Two. (Trying to pull the ring back around a limb risks getting it stuck.)

Edited by greg23 on 04/06/2012 17:10:39 MDT.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Bear Bag Cord Storage on 04/06/2012 16:44:08 MDT Print View

I store/backpack with mine on a small, plastic spool. Worth the ounce to me.

Kier Selinsky
(Kieran) - F

Locale: Seattle, WA
Re: Bear Bag Cord Storage on 04/06/2012 21:08:16 MDT Print View

I use the knotless PCT method, with the PVC pipe section. So I coil it up, stick the coil through the PVC, and then use the 'biner to hook through the two ends. Keeps it neat and tidy, no tangles, and everything is stored together there.

John Almond
(FLRider) - F

Locale: The Southeast
Easy-Peasy on 04/07/2012 03:54:15 MDT Print View

My personal DIY food bag is longer and thinner than most of the commercially available ones. It's sized so that my cook kit fills it out at one end. I wind my line (I use paracord right now; I had it on hand when I made the bag) around the bag itself, leave a bit, wrap once back under and through the wound line, and clip off to the bag's drawstring.

It's worked pretty well so far, though my line is twisted a bit from the winding/unwinding of the last three trips. We'll see how it holds up over the long haul...