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(RogerDodger) - F

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... on 04/05/2012 17:11:34 MDT Print View

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Edited by RogerDodger on 06/16/2015 15:15:58 MDT.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Here
rethinking the sleeping pad on 04/05/2012 19:17:01 MDT Print View

well, OK, I have nothing else to do , so here we go...
What about your arms and your legs ?
Forgetting that, you will probably find that you will sweat against that foam
another possible problem is that given the right situation you can get condensation on the floor (often mistaken as water penetration) so that would directly wet out your sleeping bag.
Besides , do you really sleep all night on your back ?
Franco

Ken T.
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: rethinking the sleeping pad on 04/05/2012 19:33:49 MDT Print View

rethink the rethinking.

really

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: rethinking the sleeping pad on 04/05/2012 19:49:07 MDT Print View

When I was young I didn't use a pad or ground sheet at all. Maybe we need to lighten our age?

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: rethinking the sleeping pad on 04/05/2012 20:31:11 MDT Print View

Ken, 'thinking' in it of itself is hard enough. You ask too much.

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(RogerDodger) - F

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... on 04/05/2012 20:40:23 MDT Print View

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Edited by RogerDodger on 06/16/2015 15:16:52 MDT.

K C
(KalebC) - F

Locale: South West
Side sleeper on 04/05/2012 20:42:51 MDT Print View

I think the natural position for mammals is side sleeping. Ever see any mammals besides humans sleep on their back? It's not natural as far as I'm concerned, it does not keep the spine in neutral, that is not good. I'm a side sleeper and think that the side position with about 20 degrees of hip flexion requires about a 15-20 inch wide pad with perhaps a hour glass shaped torso pad would work for side sleepers. That could cut some weight.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: rethinking the sleeping pad (re Franco) on 04/05/2012 20:48:50 MDT Print View

When it's cold and my arm or leg go off the pad and lay directly on the ground they get cold, like they'll get numb after a while.

But I like the thought process here.

I don't sleep comfortably on foam pad, I use heavier air mattress. I could have air mattress just under torso where it's needed and foam the rest of area to keep warm.

Daryl and Daryl
(lyrad1) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
Re: rethinking the sleeping pad on 04/05/2012 21:22:43 MDT Print View

I've slept in a float coat a few nights. This is pretty close to your idea but with closed cell foam on all sides. Worked pretty well.

I had a bit of condensation between my shoulder blades but that was about it. The coat fit fairly loosely so I think the moist air was able to escape as I slept. I'm a side sleeper and change positions often during the night.

I certianly wouldn't rule out your idea without trying it.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Side sleeper on 04/06/2012 01:15:45 MDT Print View

"I think the natural position for mammals is side sleeping. Ever see any mammals besides humans sleep on their back?"

Yes, my dog; and he snores when he does. Most of the time he sleeps on his side and sometimes on his stomach too.

Hmm... seems I do the same.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: rethinking the sleeping pad on 04/06/2012 01:21:39 MDT Print View

Most of the time I sleep on my side. And until just a year or so ago I mostly used a foam pad. Torso length only the past few years. Not as young as I used to be.

The only sore spot I get is at my hip, but I am pretty skinny so it is mostly bone down there. I have been pretty happy with my NeoAir. But I have been thinking about just using a NightLite and putting my partially inflated Kooka Bay pillow under my hip. Going to try that one of these weekends.

Ultra Magnus
(Ultra_Magnus) - F
Re: Side sleeper on 04/06/2012 11:43:24 MDT Print View

"I think the natural position for mammals is side sleeping. Ever see any mammals besides humans sleep on their back? It's not natural as far as I'm concerned, it does not keep the spine in neutral, that is not good. I'm a side sleeper and think that the side position with about 20 degrees of hip flexion requires about a 15-20 inch wide pad with perhaps a hour glass shaped torso pad would work for side sleepers. That could cut some weight."

Some mammals sleep standing up. If we could get that figured out, we wouldn't need any pad at all...

BM

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... on 04/06/2012 12:03:59 MDT Print View

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