SnowPeak 600 - stoves
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Bradley Jay
(standupdouble) - F
SnowPeak 600 - stoves on 03/28/2012 20:54:27 MDT Print View

Hey Everyone,

Up until now I have managed to avoid bringing a stove with me on trips. However, I have decided that I want to give freezer bag cooking a shot as I believe it will help me save space this summer in the sierras where I will need a bear canister. I currently own a snow peak 600 and am considering my options. I would like a system that fits inside my mug. The only option I have been able to find is Flat Cat Gear's Snow Leopard Jr. Does anyone have any experience with this?

http://flatcatgear.com/page11.php

I was hoping Trail Designs had a solution but unfortunately they cannot build a fissure cone that will fit due to the location of the handles on the sp 600. Does anyone know of other manufacturers, setups or myog possibilities?

All the best,

Brad

Jack G
(NomadJack) - F

Locale: Midwest
SnowPeak 600 - stoves on 03/28/2012 22:09:57 MDT Print View

Not familiar with the Snow Leopard but I'd consider a Gram Weenie PRO or maybe Tinny's new BIOS Micro.

http://end2endtrailsupply.com/Gram_Weenie_PRO.html

https://www.minibulldesign.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=147&idcategory=2

M B
(livingontheroad) - M
SP600 on 03/28/2012 23:05:43 MDT Print View

small tealight cup for stove. Use foil tape (inside and out) to make lip about 3/16" higher so it holds more fuel. = 0.05 oz

MYOG stand of wire mesh hardware cloth, make a cylidrical shape about 2" OD x 2" tall. Clip out most of the wire, you dont need it all. = 0.22 oz. If you use galvanized, take a propane torch and burn it off once and for all, (just dont breath)

MYOG windscreen from Al flashing, tall enough to still fit in pot. = 0.45 oz.

MYOG stiff foil lid from pie-pan bottom = 0.07 oz. Use a bit of al foil tape for handle.

Use rubber band to hold lid on in pack = 0.04 oz

total = 2.8 pot+.07 lid+.45 wind screen+.22 stand+.05 tealight+.04 rubber band = 3.63 oz.

will boil 2 cups on 0.6 fl oz, (0.5 oz wt) of fuel in about 8-10 min. Getting the height from the top of stove to the bottom of pot is critical, should be about 1 1/8" If memory serves me right. Flame will just cover complete bottom of pot.

everything fits inside easily with room for matches, lighter, and other miscl things you might want to put .

Edited by livingontheroad on 03/28/2012 23:10:08 MDT.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: SnowPeak 600 - stoves on 03/28/2012 23:30:41 MDT Print View

Bradley:

Canister stove - SP Gigapower stove will fit nicely.

Or use an alcohol stove instead to cut weight even further. The SP 600 is a relatively narrow pot. I recommend pairing it with a non-pressurized, top burning stove.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: SnowPeak 600 - stoves on 03/29/2012 00:01:55 MDT Print View

Fancee Feest, Venom Super Stove, Cobalt Blue Soloist, BudLyte Super Stove and the Mini Fancee Feest stoves are available at www.zelphs-stoveworks.com

All work very well with the SP600 small diameter pot/mug

Edited by zelph on 03/29/2012 00:08:39 MDT.

jacko vanderbijl
(jacko1956)

Locale: Shelley Western Australia
small stove on 03/29/2012 03:24:13 MDT Print View

I fit my Evernew Titanium stoveset inside my single wall mug so it should fit your Snow Peak. It is an excellent little set (I got mine from end2end) but it needs a bit more wind protection quite often. A bit of foil as a windshield would be worthwhile addition.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: SnowPeak 600 - stoves on 03/29/2012 15:38:35 MDT Print View

I currently own a snow peak 600 and am considering my options. I would like a system that fits inside my mug. The only option I have been able to find is Flat Cat Gear's Snow Leopard Jr. Does anyone have any experience with this?
http://flatcatgear.com/page11.php
The trick with a narrow pot like a SP 600 is to not waste heat by having the flames just go up the sides. Integrated systems like a Snow Leopard Jr. will help you do just that.

I visited the FlatCat Gear shop a couple of weeks ago, and I was very impressed with their designs and in particular with how well the integrate things. Jon, the proprietor of FlatCat is a very knowledgeable and thorough engineer. I think he's making some really good stuff based on what I've seen. I'm currently reviewing the Bob Cat system. I have not reviewed their Snow Leopard line, but I'm very impressed overall with what FlatCat is doing, and if the Snow Leopard line is anything at all like their Bob Cat, then it's a solid product.

Now, I happen to like efficient, integrated systems. However, I see that there are a lot of good DIY ideas here in this thread. If you like to fiddle, it looks like their are plenty of ideas to choose from. I also see that Dan has listed some of the stoves he produces. I haven't ever used any of Dan's stoves, but you may want to investigate those as well.

Lastly, you could use a gas stove. I think gas stoves aren't terribly efficient with such a narrow pot, but they do work, and you can increase the efficiency if you turn the flame down a bit. You want to avoid flames spilling up the sides. Something like an MSR MicroRocket (which has a very narrow flame) might be a nice option for for a narrow pot like the SP 600.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Gary Dunckel
(Zia-Grill-Guy) - MLife

Locale: Boulder
Canister windscreen for a SP 600 pot on 03/29/2012 16:30:06 MDT Print View

Jim, you might recall my MYOG post about a year ago, describing a windscreen for my SP Giga stove and SP 600 pot. I found that this setup was VERY eficient at a low flame output (comparable to a Jet Boil, but slower). The link to that thread is below.

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=45927

M B
(livingontheroad) - M
sp600 on 03/29/2012 18:47:34 MDT Print View

Jason Klass has some suggestions too out there, search for his websites and videos.

I believe that many make alcohol stoves overly complicated for virtually no benefit.

A simple tealight is ultra-efficient, ultra easy, and ultra cheap with the SP600, you dont need to measure fuel you can see how much you put in, and there is nothing lighter or easier, no priming, etc.

Truth be told, the windscreen design and flame coverage has the biggest effect on efficiency with all alcohol stoves.

After trying a bunch of others with a 1.3L pot, I came to the same conclusion. A larger tealight will boil 4 cups of water in my evernew 1.3 in 8.5 minutes, on 1.1oz fuel, and thats outside, not in the kitchen. It will do 2 cups on ...0.6 oz also, in about 5 min.

Supercat could not even bring the 4cups water to boil in the same amount of time, on the fuel it would hold.



One trick you use with tealights is simply to put a bent piece of metal in it to conduct more heat and speed up the burn. You can make it faster if you want, at the expense of efficiency sometimes. I use a bent piece in my larger tealight , it cuts about 3.5 minutes off the boil time for 4 cups.

Jon Fong
(jonfong) - F - M

Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR
A message fro FLAT CAT GEAR on 03/30/2012 00:16:32 MDT Print View

Thank you for your interest in the Snow Leopard Cooking System by FLAT CAT GEAR (www.flatcatgear.com). Recently, Brian Green did a review of our Snow Leopard Original system (http://www.briangreen.net/2011/11/flatcat-gear-snow-leopard-cook-system.html). Although it was not stated in the review, Brian also has the Snow Leopard Jr. system. The Snow Leopard Jr. was specifically designed for the Snow Peak 600 and the windscreen, stove and heat shield will pack inside the mug. There are several other product reviews that are ongoing and should be published in the next few months. If you have any additional questions or comments, feel free to send me a PM. Jon

Richard Mock
(moxtr) - M

Locale: The piney woods
Re: sp600 on 04/16/2013 23:34:30 MDT Print View

I know I am late to the party but I would love to know how the bent metal is arranged in the stove.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: sp600 on 04/17/2013 12:53:44 MDT Print View

Richard,

If you simply curl a a thing strip of aluminum into a spiral and lay it on its side in the stove, you should get some heat conduction back to the fuel which will make the stove burn hotter.

Generally though, you don't want the stove to burn hotter. You'll burn through more fuel per boil if you make the stove hotter. If you want fast boil times, you could go with a canister gas or white gas stove. Particularly the Reactor and JetBoil stoves are known for fast boil times. Most people go to alcohol to save weight and are content with slower boils.

You may already know all this; I apologize if I'm stating the obvious.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

brent driggers
(cadyak) - MLife

Locale: southwest georgia
SP600 Stainless Woodstove on 04/17/2013 15:49:00 MDT Print View

I use a superstove for alcohol but for wood one of these 2.8oz stainless woodstoves works every time.



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sp2


sp3

Edited by cadyak on 04/17/2013 15:50:18 MDT.

Ben Wortman
(bwortman) - M

Locale: Nebraska
Stove on 04/17/2013 15:57:54 MDT Print View

Brent
Where did you get that stove? I want one too!

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Stove on 04/17/2013 17:23:31 MDT Print View

That wood stove is pretty slick. Is it a DIY job?

HJ

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: SP600 Stainless Woodstove on 04/17/2013 18:23:58 MDT Print View

Brent really does nice work with stainless steel. I have one of his creations and they are 100% high quality wood stoves. Built to last a lifetime. Excelent craftsmanship. Makes them himself, no cnc out sourcing. I can boil 2 cups of water with one load of wood using his design. Excellent design Brent. Bravo!

Richard Mock
(moxtr) - M

Locale: The piney woods
Re: Re: Re: sp600 on 04/17/2013 21:44:21 MDT Print View

Thanks for the quick informative response.

brent driggers
(cadyak) - MLife

Locale: southwest georgia
woodstove on 04/18/2013 07:30:06 MDT Print View

Thanks a lot Dan. I just got a few new tools in my "shop" and Im hoping to start making many more stoves.

Ben Wortman
(bwortman) - M

Locale: Nebraska
Get rid of the old one! on 04/18/2013 07:41:12 MDT Print View

Brent
You probably want to get rid of that old stove since you have the shiny new tools to make new ones.

I would be happy to get rid of it for you. I will even pay a "disposal fee" to get it here.

Ben

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Get rid of the old one! on 04/18/2013 10:47:04 MDT Print View

lol. That's very kind of you, Ben.

I look forward to seeing more of your work, Brent.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving