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Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - M

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Titanium Jetboil Sol -- Weight? on 03/19/2012 15:00:12 MDT Print View

Has anybody got a titanium Jetboil Sol that they can weigh?

I've got the weights for the aluminum version as follows:
Item (in grams)
Pot 136
Burner 102
Cup 31
Cozy 23
Lid 18
TOTAL: 310

Can anyone give me the equivalent weights for the titanium version?

Much appreciated,

HJ
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Jim Larkey
(jimlarkey) - MLife

Locale: Northern CO
0.8 L Ti Version JetBoil on 03/19/2012 15:30:23 MDT Print View

Jetboil 0.8 L Ti Pot Weights:

Plastic HX protector cup on bottom 34g
Ti Cup w/o cozy 106g
Cozy 20g
Plastic lid 19 g
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TOTAL Pot weighed 178g

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JetBoil Ti Cooker Weights:

Cooker 102g
Pot Support 36g
Plastic Stabilizer Tripod 28g
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TOTAL Cooker weighed 166g
Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - M

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: 0.8 L Ti Version JetBoil on 03/19/2012 16:58:29 MDT Print View

Super!

Thanks, Jim!

HJ
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Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - M

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: 0.8 L Ti Version JetBoil on 03/19/2012 20:41:16 MDT Print View

Jetboil's site lists the aluminum version as 10.5 ounces and the mostly titanium version as 8.5 ounces, a two ounce difference.  However, Jetboil's site compares "apples to oranges" in that a different set of components is used to compile the weight of the aluminum version vs. the mostly titanium version.  I wanted an "apples to apples" comparison, so I did my own weight comparison:
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ItemJetboil Sol Aluminum (grams)Jetboil Sol Titanium (grams)Jetboil Sol Aluminum (ounces)Jetboil Sol Titanium (ounces)Difference
1Pot1361064.803.74
2Burner1021023.603.60
3Cup32321.131.13
4Cozy23200.810.71
5Lid19190.670.67
Total31227911.019.841.16(ounces)
33(grams)
Note: I did a little averaging on component weights which vary a gram or two depending on the source and the instance.

Findings:

  • The aluminum version weighs about 11 ounces on my scale vs. 10.5 ounces reported on Jetboil's site.

  • When a comparison was done using identical component lists, the weight difference between the aluminum and titanium versions was just a shade over one ounce.

HJ
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Edited by hikin_jim on 03/19/2012 20:48:13 MDT.
Nathan Watts
(7sport) - MLife
 		Re: Re: Re: 0.8 L Ti Version JetBoil on 03/19/2012 21:15:58 MDT Print View

Is it true the titanium one is more efficient?

How is the durability between the two?

Any reason one might be easier to clean than the other? Or more resistive to scoring and scratching? I'm guessing the ti but don't know if either or both have a finish on the inside.

How about drinking from the mug? I've heard the ti is less likely to burn your lips but haven't tried it myself.

Are both mugs the same shape? Does one pack more efficiently than the other?

And my last question is will the ti keep drinks warmer longer by any chance or does having the cozy on both render that an insignificant difference?

Ti definitely costs more. Interesting to see the weight isn't much different. Thanks for the comparison and let us know some of the other pros/cons of one vs. the other
Nigel Healy
(nigelhealy) - F

Locale: San Francisco bay area
Re: Re: Re: Re: 0.8 L Ti Version JetBoil on 03/19/2012 22:37:28 MDT Print View

that's why I went for a the Ti version - strength and durability. Even though I paid $102 delivered for mine which is less than the $149+tax MSRP, it was still I think about $20 more Ti than Alu. $102 is still a lot, compared to say a Caldera Cone. That strength in the Jetboil system protects the stove in transit, in my case with the bumps of bike touring.

I used Alu pots for decades, they don't last as long, they are softer and the metal pits over time. The metal is sufficiently thin the Alu version I had longevity concerns. Steel and Ti will last longer. I expect mine will fail first in the stove part before the pot fails, possibly in that future year its a serviceable part but I doubt it. The pot itself has some uses beyond the stove, you can make a Cone sidewinder for it and we've seen some good boil times in a cone.

I think boil times will very similar Alu vs Ti due to the same Fluxring base. Has anyone done say 5 different boil time tests using the same stove and just the Alu vs Ti pot swapping?

Is the to-the-hand temperature of the Ti going to be lower than the Alu to hold the pot? Ti not transmitting the heat through the liquid contents as quickly? The Ti pot's coolness I find impressive through the relatively thin cosy/handle.
Davey Jones
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Where there is snow
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 0.8 L Ti Version JetBoil on 03/19/2012 22:43:31 MDT Print View

"I think boil times will very similar Alu vs Ti due to the same Fluxring base. Has anyone done say 5 different boil time tests using the same stove and just the Alu vs Ti pot swapping?"

Tested @ BPL, State of the Market both versions. Ti was slightly more efficient and faster.
Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - M

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: Re: Re: 0.8 L Ti Version JetBoil on 03/19/2012 23:08:22 MDT Print View

Is it true the titanium one is more efficient?
See David Ure's comments above.

How is the durability between the two?
Generally, Ti is more durable, HOWEVER the aluminum "flux ring" (heat exchanger) on the Ti version can be melted if you're not careful. There have even been a few (three that I know of) reports of the heat exchanger melting when people were following the directions. See Titanium JetBoil Sol -- Caution for details.

Any reason one might be easier to clean than the other? Or more resistive to scoring and scratching? I'm guessing the ti but don't know if either or both have a finish on the inside.
Ti will be more resistive to scoring and scratching, Ti can also handle some fairly abrasive cleaning.

How about drinking from the mug? I've heard the ti is less likely to burn your lips but haven't tried it myself.
Ti is less likely to burn your lips. However, if you use the supplied lid, the lid will protect your lips with either version.

Are both mugs the same shape? Does one pack more efficiently than the other?
The mugs are nearly identical except for materials. There's no advantage to packability with one or the other.

And my last question is will the ti keep drinks warmer longer by any chance or does having the cozy on both render that an insignificant difference?
If the Ti version heats faster it will actually lose heat faster, but I think the difference due to the pot material is minimal. The user needs to make sure to keep the lid on and to cover the heat exchanger fins if he or she wants to retain heat.

Ti definitely costs more. Interesting to see the weight isn't much different.
Ti as I recall is actually heavier for a given volume than aluminum. The "trick" with Ti is that it's very strong so that you can make things constructed of Ti thinner. It is the thinness that provides the weight savings. In this case, though, there isn't a great deal of weight savings, just slightly more than one ounce.

Thanks for the comparison and let us know some of the other pros/cons of one vs. the other
Right now, I don't have access to the Ti version, and I'd be afraid to borrow one for testing because the heat exchanger can melt. Therefore, probably no comparison report forthcoming from me. :(

I have written a review of the aluminum version of the Jetboil Sol which should be published soon. I'll post a link.

HJ
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