The conventional vacation planner posts this type of post on a forum:
"Hi guys, planning our annual summer backpacking trip with the buddies, looking for scenery, mountains, wildflowers, and sunshine. Where should we go?"
I'd like to propose something different, to spark a discussion of either (1) where have you been that's been a truly awful environment, and (2) help me plan my summer (spring, fall, winter?) vacation!
"Hey guys, looking to plan a trip with pals and we really want to test ultralight gear in bad conditions: cold, wind, rain, mud? We don't care about views, mountains, permits, but the point of the trip is to get fair tests of ultralight 3-season backpacking gear, so no subzero temperatures or Trips Requiring Ropes, and we would like to stay in the lower 48. Any time of year is fine."