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Stephen Barber
(grampa) - MLife

Locale: SoCal
White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 16:17:50 MDT Print View

http://news.yahoo.com/white-rice-linked-type-2-diabetes-study-says-190002021.html

For every serving of white rice per day, your chance of getting type 2 diabetes goes up 11%.


Just personally, I find the publication of this correlation in the same week as the red meat correlation to be ironic indeed! "Don't eat anything - it will kill you!!!"

Edited by grampa on 03/16/2012 16:37:13 MDT.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 16:31:18 MDT Print View

"For every serving of white rice per day, your chance of getting type 2 diabetes goes up 11%."

What a generalization! If this were true, I would have died a long time ago.

What timing. I just received my latest blood test results back from my physician. He keeps looking for evidence of various health problems, and there is none there.

--B.G.--

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 16:47:30 MDT Print View

I'm having pot roast w/ white rice (& gravy!) for dinner.

Who's with me? What can I say?...I'm a wild man!!!

Luke Schmidt
(Cameron) - MLife

Locale: The WOODS
Re Re White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 16:51:53 MDT Print View

So lets see...

I can't eat red meat (or possibly any meat)

I can't eat white rice

I can't have diary

I can't be a vegatarian

I can't eat wheat

I can't eat sugar

I can't eat fats

Anything else I missed?

How about we apply Occum's Razor to diets and only eat what EVERYONE agrees will be good for you? What exactly would such a diet look like?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re Re White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 16:55:53 MDT Print View

"What exactly would such a diet look like?"

You can eat boiled, waxed okra.

--B.G.--

John Nausieda
(Meander) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re Re White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:08:44 MDT Print View

This happened at a party buffet once where a Mr. Petel from India said to me" I cannot eat anything which has been alive." I thought for a few minutes and suggested that salt should be ok.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:11:58 MDT Print View

The reason they remove the germ from rice is so it has longer shelf life.

When I make rice, I always use brown rice - store it in freezer.

White rice, white flour, sugar in all it's forms, and other simple carbs contribute to obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, cancer - all related.

Of course, if you eat a moderate anount of white rice with a bunch of vegetables or whatever then it's not so bad.

I'm totally ignoring all your negative comments : )

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:12:23 MDT Print View

"What can I say?...I'm a wild man!!!"

Nah, a real wild man would use possum.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:16:37 MDT Print View

"White rice, white flour, sugar in all it's forms, and other simple carbs contribute to obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart disease, cancer - all related."

Funny thing: Somewhere north of 4 billion souls use white rice as their main carb source. In large amounts. What am I missing?

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:19:02 MDT Print View

"What exactly would such a diet look like?"

30% vegetables, 20% fruit, the rest complex carbs, meat, fat,...

Lots of green vegetables, brightly colored fruit, onions, mushrooms,...

Actualy, surprisingly, the new USFDA "food plate" isn't too bad, except I forget, did the potato lobby get potatoes classified as a vegetable?

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: Re White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:21:05 MDT Print View

"Funny thing: Somewhere north of 4 billion souls use white rice as their main carb source. In large amounts. What am I missing?"

Do they eat white rice or do they eat brown rice?

I'd be surprised if they could afford to remove the germ from the rice. That's only something that us rich people can afford.

Also, they eat lots of vegetables.

Brian UL
(MAYNARD76)

Locale: New England
Re: Re White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:21:08 MDT Print View

The problem is that the germ is where the rice and other grains store their defensive toxins. So you either eat it with the defensive shell removed or you ingest massive amounts of toxins designed to damage your stomachs lining and prevent its nutrition from being bio available. It may be better to eat white rice with lots of veggies and meat. At least rice is gluten free.

Brian UL
(MAYNARD76)

Locale: New England
Re: Re: Re White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:23:42 MDT Print View

"Funny thing: Somewhere north of 4 billion souls use white rice as their main carb source. In large amounts. What am I missing?'

That Asians eat mostly meats and veggies. Rice is a side dish unless you are poor. Even then, rice is a new modern food staple for the poor, traditionally it was millet and barley.

Not too over simplify I should add that in Asia portions are smaller and they eat a lot less sugar and wheat. Rice is not so bad and a lot better than wheat.

Edited by MAYNARD76 on 03/16/2012 17:33:16 MDT.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: Santa Rosa, CA
Re: White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:23:56 MDT Print View

I like brown rice better anyway.

But I will never give up white bread, wheat bread is just so BLEH.

John Jensen
(JohnJ) - F

Locale: Orange County, CA
Re: White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:25:42 MDT Print View

I try to eat brown rice (hulled barley and quinoa are also good), but ... white rice tastes so darn good! esp. with black beans.

I suspect the black beans make it ok.

(Also note that many healthy cultures prefer white rice.)

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:30:37 MDT Print View

"But I will never give up white bread, wheat bread is just so BLEH"

That makes so sense - white bread is disgusting.

John Jensen
(JohnJ) - F

Locale: Orange County, CA
for the heck of it on 03/16/2012 17:30:52 MDT Print View

I currently feed my bread machine the following:

2 tsp instant yeast (buy a pound at Smart and Final! keeps in the fridge forever)
12.5 oz bread flour by weight
1/3 cup milled flax seeds (substitute 1 tbs of that with chia if you like)
1/3 cup raw sunflower seeds
1 tsp canola oil (or 1 tbs if you prefer)
1 tsp molasses (or 1 tbs if you prefer)
1 tsp salt (or 1 1/2 tsp if you prefer)
1 1/3 cups water

Eat toasted, with peanut butter.

Update: don't trust spellcheck ingredients

Edited by JohnJ on 03/16/2012 17:49:25 MDT.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:37:03 MDT Print View

"I try to eat brown rice (hulled barley and quinoa are also good), but ... white rice tastes so darn good! esp. with black beans.

I suspect the black beans make it ok."

I don't find much difference between brown or white rice taste wise - brown rice has sort of a nutty taste.

Definitely the black beans neutralize some of the bad effect. The glycemic index of the total is what's important.

Really, it's not white rice that's making us unhealthy, it's more the cheap high fructose corn syrup that's in everything, the sodas, and french fries,... most people don't eat lots of white rice by itself

Roger Dodger
(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: Wess Siide
[x] ignore test delete on 03/16/2012 17:42:11 MDT Print View

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Edited by RogerDodger on 06/14/2012 17:14:32 MDT.

Brian UL
(MAYNARD76)

Locale: New England
Re: Re: Re: White rice is killing you on 03/16/2012 17:50:39 MDT Print View

"Really, it's not white rice that's making us unhealthy, it's more the cheap high fructose corn syrup that's in everything, the sodas, and french fries,... most people don't eat lots of white rice by itself"

+1
Rice is not really a problem. Its the processed food i.e. sugar,wheat,soy,HFCS,vegetable oils, and artificial flavorings and preservatives that we should worry about. But the media and government don't want to badmouth the multi trillion dollar junk food industry. When it comes to them we are told all calories are the same, there no such thing as bad food only "empty calories". Its only when it comes to things that have high political/ideological entanglements like meat that the media are willing to propagandize. The fact is that a vegan diet is the perfect most profitable industrial diet. Raising meat is a dirty complex process better suited to small farms and they come with a lot of political and ethical baggage.
So eat your white rice and stay clear of processed food and you will be fine.