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K C
(KalebC) - F

Locale: South West
Titanium Cookware weight breakdown on 03/10/2012 20:59:47 MST Print View

I have a snow peak 1400 that I usually use for backpacking with more than one person, the weight of just the pot is 4.35oz The fry pan is 2.25 oz (which I never bring or use). On the snow peak site they list the set as 7.4oz ????? That is almost an ounce difference. The stow sack only weighs 0.4 oz so if they include this they are still off. What I would like to know is what does your titanium pot weigh, I am calling on people with the SP 700 and 900 and who have a scale. I am going to get something smaller soon and would like to know the REAL weight before I buy. If you have a similar size Ti pot let me know what it weighs, breakdown each component, pot, lid, pan if applicable. Thanks

You are right Barry, I should have said almost instead of over.

Edited by KalebC on 03/13/2012 11:15:13 MDT.

Ben F
(tekhna) - F
Weight listings on 03/10/2012 21:12:00 MST Print View

Yeah, I assumed when I started browsing this forum there would be a database of community-weighed gear, like there is for road cycling. Why isn't there?!

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings.php

Heath Pitts
(heathpitts)

Locale: Nashville
RE:Titanium Cookware weight breakdown on 03/10/2012 21:16:00 MST Print View

Actually, I think that's a good idea for this site. I have a few weights that I could add to the DB myself.

Jace Mullen
(climberslacker) - F

Locale: Your guess is as good as mine.
Open Source Data Base on 03/10/2012 21:41:36 MST Print View

I think on of the issues is that so much of the gear is customized.

I have very little gear that I haven't either ordered custom, modified in some way. The rare piece of gear that doesn't fit that is most likely out of production.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Weight listings on 03/10/2012 21:51:44 MST Print View

We all have own own scales and have never trusted the manufacturer specs.

+1 with Jace

My Evernew 750ml Pasta Pot weighs 3.3oz with lid, no sack.

Edited by kthompson on 03/10/2012 21:53:45 MST.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Titanium Cookware weight breakdown on 03/10/2012 22:35:01 MST Print View

Hey, Kaleb,

What do you do for a lid for your 1400? I've got one but no lid.

I'd quote you some weights for a Snow Peak 700 and a 900, but I don't own those. I've got Snow Peak 780ml and 1000ml Ti pots, the ones that come in their cook set. Would you like those weights?

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

K C
(KalebC) - F

Locale: South West
RE: hikin Jim on 03/10/2012 23:13:46 MST Print View

I use very thick tin foil baking bags myog lid, got it about 7 years ago and haven't seen them much for sale lately at the grocery store. I have rei credit and the sp 700 or 900 with 20% off is looking good when my dividend discount comes out, just thinking out loud. Of course if a similar pot out there is lighter and has the duel use of cooking/boiling over fire I would get it. And the cookware database is important information as most of us have/want the perfect size/weight for any given trip. I would like to have the 780 and 1 G SP weights for reference, thanks.

Edited by KalebC on 03/10/2012 23:20:05 MST.

Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
Titanium Cookware weight breakdown on 03/11/2012 11:30:15 MDT Print View

My Snowpeak Ti Mini Solo kit breaks down as follows:

http://www.snowpeak.com/ti-mini-solo-combo-scs-004t.html

Pot (approx 900 ml) - 3.0 oz
Lid - .7 oz
Cup (approx 300 ml) - 1.6 oz
Mesh sack - .5 oz

My total (5.8 oz) is slightly heavier than their website (5.5 oz) but that's probably due to weighing each item separately. I don't have a weight for entire kit so I'm not sure how it compares to the posted weight.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Titanium Cookware weight breakdown on 03/12/2012 16:16:59 MDT Print View

OK, I got out all my Titanium pots that I've accumulated over the years. I'll list them below in table fashion. I don't have the weight for the Trek 1400 pot lid. Can anyone tell me how many grams that weighs?

EDIT: Thank you to Kaleb for the weight of the Trek 1400 pot lid (62g). Table updated (below).

I have also posted the below table on my blog now along with some comments and usage notes.









Item Capacity (ml) Pot (g) Lid (g) Total Grams Total Ounces Total Pounds
1 Snow Peak Trek 1400 1400 125 62 187 6.60 0.41
2 Snow Peak Trek 1400 with cheap Al lid 1400 125 29 154 5.43 0.34
3 Evernew Ultralight 1300ml 1300 94 42 136 4.80 0.30
4 Snow Peak Multi-Compact 1000ml 1000 100 64 164 5.78 0.36
5 Snow Peak 1000ml with Evernew 1300 Lid 1000 100 42 142 5.01 0.31
6 MSR Titan Kettle 850ml 850 97 36 133 4.69 0.29
7 Snow Peak Multi-Compact 780ml 780 81 51 132 4.66 0.29
8 BPL Firelite 550 550 66 14 80 2.82 0.18


HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Edited by hikin_jim on 03/13/2012 10:13:25 MDT.

Scott Simcox
(Simco) - F

Locale: Nashville
Re: Re: Titanium Cookware weight breakdown on 03/12/2012 16:27:05 MDT Print View

Love tables.

Edited by Simco on 03/12/2012 16:28:20 MDT.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Titanium cookware - BAH Humbug! on 03/12/2012 16:35:53 MDT Print View

For me titanium's lack of being able spread heat is it's main downfall.

Next is ti's price - too much

And finally it's weight. 2X that of aluminum, even coated aluminum.
"Aha!" you say, "Ti is thinner so it weighs almost the same as aluminum."
Yep it IS thinner out of necessity to save weight, just one more reason for its hot spot tendency.

"Why Ti?" Really.

Edited by Danepacker on 03/12/2012 16:37:32 MDT.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Titanium cookware - BAH Humbug! on 03/12/2012 16:39:23 MDT Print View

Eric, it seems that you keep going over the same titanium issue, and then we tell you the answer, but you never seem to retain that.

Titanium will withstand the heat of a wood fire without deforming. If you never use a wood fire, then you don't need to worry about it.

--B.G.--

K C
(KalebC) - F

Locale: South West
Fire! on 03/12/2012 21:49:49 MDT Print View

Yes Bob, I will not use aluminum, (minus heiny keg), cause I boil/cook on fire as much as I can. There is just something about having to build and maintain a fire in diverse environments to prepare my meal, primal instinct?

Jim, the Snow Peak 1400 fry pan/lid weighs 62 grams.

Thank you all for posting

Barry P
(BarryP) - F

Locale: Eastern Idaho (moved from Midwest)
Re: Titanium Cookware weight breakdown on 03/13/2012 09:52:38 MDT Print View

“…the pot is 4.35oz The fry pan is 2.25 oz (which I never bring or use). On the snow peak site they list the set as 7.4oz ????? That is over an ounce difference. The stow sack only weighs 0.4 oz so if they include this they are still off.”

I got lost on the math. 4.35+2.25=6.60. I’m not sure how that’s over an ounce difference. Putting the stow sack at 0.4 = 7.0oz. That is nice when the actual product is slightly less than advertised; a classy company!

-Barry

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Fire! on 03/13/2012 10:27:02 MDT Print View

Kaleb,

Thanks for the weight of the 1400 fry pan/lid.

Personally, I don't think those fry pan lids are a very good deal. First, Ti doesn't distribute heat well which makes frying something in a Ti fry pan a pain since food scorches so easily. Second, the fry pans add quite a bit of weight.

Of my pots, the Evernew 1300ml pot looks like the lightweight champ. It's about two ounces less than the Trek 1400 even though they're basically the same capacity pot, and the Evernew 1300 is about one ounce less than the Snow Peak 1000ml pot even though the Evernew pot has a higher capacity.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: Fire! on 03/13/2012 13:07:12 MDT Print View

I just went and looked at the Snow Peak website. They list a weight of 210g (7.4oz) for the Trek 1400. I just pulled my scale out again. I got 125g for the pot. Combine that with Kaleb's measurement of 62g for the lid, and the total is 187g, 23g less than Snow Peak's measurement. I'm not sure how Snow Peak is coming up with 210g, but perhaps 23g is the weight of the mesh stuff sack.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Jon Fong
(jonfong) - F - M

Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR
Titanium weight on 03/18/2012 15:03:52 MDT Print View

This is what I measured this afternoon, hope that helps - Jon

All the weights are in grams

Weights

Edited by jonfong on 03/18/2012 16:29:05 MDT.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Titanium weight on 03/18/2012 16:02:42 MDT Print View

Jon,

Is 173g the correct total for the SP Hybrid Solo Summit set? I'm getting 176 although maybe there's some rounding issues there.

Those Evernew small pasta pot (700ml?) sure are nice.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Jon Fong
(jonfong) - F - M

Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR
Re: Re: Titanium weight on 03/18/2012 16:35:38 MDT Print View

Yep, the Snow Peak Hybrid Solo came in at 173 grams. The silicone components really add a lot of weight as the mug by itself only weighs 86 grams. The mug itself is only slightly heavier than the Snow Peak 600 and it holds 820 ml! All of the total weights were weighed as a system and are not the sum of the parts. I also think that the Evernew Small Pasta pot (ECA521, 700ml pot) is one slick little mug.

Jon

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: Re: Titanium weight on 03/19/2012 11:32:44 MDT Print View

Jon Fong wrote: > the Evernew Small Pasta pot (ECA521, 700ml pot) is one slick little mug.
Definitely. It's the nicest 700ml mug on the market.

The lid is actually useful as opposed to the Snow Peak 600 lid which is a miserable after thought.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Edited by hikin_jim on 02/22/2013 11:10:37 MST.