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I call it....The Draft Dodger
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Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
I call it....The Draft Dodger on 02/17/2012 01:15:27 MST Print View

Well, I won't be hiding from the army draft, but I hopefully will be hidden from the drafts while sleeping under a tarp.

While tarping this winter, I was using a simple plastic sheet as a groundsheet. Light and simple, but I often found my feet sliding off the edge, and drafts while tarping in the winter can suck. So, I decided to fix my problems.

Its essentially a groundsheet with an uncovered footbox, adjustable side walls, and a pillow pocket to keep your noggin dry and happy. I like the pillow pocket because I can put small things up there like my headlamp, gloves, and any other miscellaneous items that I don't want migrating onto the ground during the night. Tapered at feet and head. Could be especially helpful when using a quilt. But, um Travis, why don't you just use a regular bivy? I'm not an incredibly sweaty dude, but for some reason I've always pumped out a lot of moisture at night while sleeping. I have no need for extra trapped moisture. Plus, it will be added splash protection.

I used regular silnylon, some cord locks, shock cord, and a wee bit of grosgrain for a loop for the shock cord. I'd like to thank John at Bear Paw for the incredibly fast shipping of my materials.

BTW, I hate silnylon. Sewing it sucks. Some of you are magicians with this stuff, but me? Some of my hems look like I did this drunk. However, the hems are sturdy and sound, so that's what really matters. Oh, and sorry for the crappy pictures. It's late here so my cell phone camera isn't too keen on the dim lighting.

Anyways, it was a learning project and I hope to try the real world practicality of this out soon. Comments welcome, but if you insult me, you owe me a case of beer. :)

Oh yeah......135 grams.


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Edited by T.L. on 02/17/2012 02:02:14 MST.

William Johnson
(Steamboat_Willie)
Please Sir, can we have some more? on 02/17/2012 01:29:44 MST Print View

Now that is an artful looking dodger.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: I call it....The Draft Dodger on 02/17/2012 07:10:55 MST Print View

Nice idea, Travis. I like it. Wonder who I can get to make me one in cuben..... ;-)

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: I call it....The Draft Dodger on 02/17/2012 07:14:41 MST Print View

Right on Travis, thanks for posting this.
This is exactly what I want to pair with my Solomid for heavy rain. Bivy would be overkill, this looks just right. Like the pillow pocket idea too.

I have a few yards of sil sitting around...this might be the weekend project.

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: I call it....The Draft Dodger on 02/17/2012 07:36:48 MST Print View

This is awesome Travis!

I think you did a great job, to heck w/crooked ... I mean character infused... seams!

Ben Wortman
(bwortman) - M

Locale: Nebraska
Sweet on 02/17/2012 07:45:38 MST Print View

I like it. I might have to sew one up myself - unless you patented it already..

tyler marlow
(like.sisyphus)

Locale: UTAH
Great job! on 02/17/2012 08:39:16 MST Print View

Travis, this looks great! Ive been dreaming about having Joe at zpacks make me one of these out of that 1oz cuben for quite a while! I really like that footbox, I was having trouble figuring exactly how I would do that.

Might have to whip one of these up with whatever i've got laying around!


A bug bivy based on this design is something else ive been thinking about for the hot summer months.

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Draft Dodger on 02/17/2012 08:59:12 MST Print View

It looks good Travis, if you are a settled sleeper.
I'm a restless sleeper, so would probably end up underneath it. :)

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Great job! on 02/17/2012 09:07:17 MST Print View

"A bug bivy based on this design is something else ive been thinking about for the hot summer months."

TiGoat already makes such a thing - a 'regular' bivy with an all mesh top. Works great.

Ty Ty
(TylerD)

Locale: SE US
vs TT on 02/17/2012 09:10:28 MST Print View

Travis that is a cool idea, I really think it is creative.

Not trying to burst your bubble, more trying to understand as I am new to backpacking much less ultralight backpacking but this seems like deep bathtub floor. When you put a tarp over top of it, the only difference I see between this and say a TT Contrail is a couple of inches of bug netting around the perimeter connecting the tarp and the bathtub floor. Why mess with a tarp and a draft dodger? (love the name)

What does your tarp setup weight with the guy lines, stakes, etc? Curious.

Dan Johnson
(Seattle)

Locale: PNW
Re: I call it....The Draft Dodger on 02/17/2012 09:33:26 MST Print View

This is something I really want to make! I love it. I'm curious though. Does anyone think that the tall perimeter of silnylon will create some or any condensation? I know it can breathe from the top but doesn't body heat also escape from the sides?

Brad Walker
(brawa)

Locale: SoCal
Nice work on 02/17/2012 09:46:35 MST Print View

It looks like you can still do some trimming where you formed the footbox to drop a few grams :)

Thom Darrah
(thomdarrah) - MLife

Locale: Southern Oregon
I call it....The Draft Dodger on 02/17/2012 09:50:29 MST Print View

Oware also has a full bug net topped bivy, the Hot Weather Solo Bivy.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
VS. Contrail @ Ty Ty on 02/17/2012 10:26:52 MST Print View

Don't know about Travis' explanation, but here's my take (as a former Contrail owner).

I'd like something like what Travis has made to pair with my MLD Solomid.
The Solomid, seam sealed, comes in at 14 ounces. If I can sew a "draft dodger" for 4 ounces, I'm now at 18 ounces. I carry trekking poles for both, so that's equal weight. Solomid, "draft dodger", and stakes would come in at 20 ounces. My Contrail came in at ~32 ounces, seam sealed, with stakes.

The Solomid is a full coverage shelter capable of handling nastier weather (even snow loads) than a Contrail. And it packs smaller. And the entire setup saves almost a pound. Bugs? If they're an issue, I can cope, I use a .5 ounce headnet.

In addition, I always found the Contrail pretty finicky in the setup. Never cared for the rear struts and guyline tension issues....tricky to setup on uneven ground sometimes. I also had issues with water pooling on the fly over the foot of the Contrail at times.

The Solomid goes up really fast and easy, has a nice small footprint, and is rock-solid. It's also possible to re-tension from inside.

Ty Ty
(TylerD)

Locale: SE US
Re: VS. Contrail @ Ty Ty on 02/17/2012 11:02:31 MST Print View

I have a Contrail on the way to me now, website says it is 24.5 oz with stakes and stuff sack so I will be disappointed if it comes in at 32 oz.

I see your point on the snow load, setup etc. What if you just put a bathtub flood in a solomid and connected the top of the bath tub floor to the inside walls of the solomid a couple inches from the bottom with mesh? I've always thought MLD should offer this as an option.

I just don't see the point in having all the different components, fuss of setting up the different pieces. If a current Contrail is 24.5 oz with stakes you are at 21.25 oz for solomid, draft dodger, stakes, headnet and you have no bug protection on hands, feet, arms and such until you are inside you bag/quilt. Also you are strapped into a draft dodger (great name, in one thread it's already becoming common nomenclature).

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: Re: VS. Contrail @ Ty Ty on 02/17/2012 11:40:44 MST Print View

I might be wrong on the weight, it was a long time ago.
But I seem to remember t being about 30-32 ounces with everything.
Maybe that was also including one easton pole....

Anyhow, I'm happier with the Solomid for what I do.

The Contrail is a smart little tent though.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: VS. Contrail @ Ty Ty on 02/17/2012 12:12:18 MST Print View

Ty Ty - my Contrail came in at 24.5oz on the nose with 4 easton pegs and no seam sealing.

Regarding snow loading. If you use the middle end strut or alternatively use your trekking pole for this service, it should do just fine in shoulder season snow.

Regarding the Mid designs. They aren't perfect either. As snow accumulates, the ends bow in significantly reducing usable length. At least this was my experience.

Ty Ty
(TylerD)

Locale: SE US
Re: Re: Re: VS. Contrail @ Ty Ty on 02/17/2012 13:12:37 MST Print View

I don't have to worry about snow much, I am in Georgia. I do plan to use the 3rd end pole every time.

I know the contrail is not perfect and not for everybody. I just don't see how a tarp and a bathtub ground sheet is anything different than a contrail. Maybe you prefer a different shape/design of tarp but I dont think you get much weight savings with a tarp, ground sheet, bug head net. If you are talking the same size tarp or roof of your tent then literally the only difference is the little band of bug netting joining the two...hence the 2-3 ounce of weight savings, all you are saving is the little bit of bug netting.

David Wills
(willspower3) - F
Re: I call it....The Draft Dodger on 02/17/2012 13:19:43 MST Print View

"Some of my hems look like I did this drunk."

Why didn't you? I thought all MYOG projects required an ice cold malty beverage to smooth out the appearance of mistakes.

Good project though. I may have to make one with netting on the top like the Suluk 46 bug bivy to go with my MYOG Duomid.

Gregory Petliski
(gregpphoto) - F
re on 02/17/2012 15:15:14 MST Print View

What an awesome idea. I like it for the potential of eliminating a groundcloth, using this under my tarps to keep my bag dry should water be running underneath. Do you have plans for how you put it all together? I'm not concerned about the pillow pocket so much, but the other aspects of it are perfect.