Debating stoves
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Ben Whitsett
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Debating stoves on 02/13/2012 08:17:24 MST Print View

I'm probably over thinking this, but curious what others think. I'm planning a 3 week JMT trip and the stove options are giving me the most trouble. I own a MSR Dragonfly, a Snow Peak LiteMax Titanium Stove and a White Box stove. I love them all! Anyone of an opinion on a late Aug/early Sept JMT trip?

JASON CUZZETTO
(cuzzettj) - MLife

Locale: NorCal - South Bay
RE: Debating Stoves... on 02/13/2012 08:48:20 MST Print View

A Jet Boil Titanium!!! Just kidding, well sort of. I love my Jet boil and I have A LOT of stoves. I have, and love, the White Box out of that selection. At that time of the year I would just take your lightest stove.

Jim W.
(jimqpublic) - MLife

Locale: So-Cal
Re: Debating stoves on 02/13/2012 08:54:07 MST Print View

How many times per day? Cooking or boiling water? How much cooked each time?

I'd take the Litemax.

Ben Whitsett
(BenWhitsett) - F
re on 02/13/2012 09:16:09 MST Print View

I like the sound of a Titanium Jetboil!!!

If I had to average it all out, we would probably boil 3 cups of water twice a day. I have been leaning toward the LiteMax, which is my go to stove. It's just so dang efficient, especially paired with my Optimus Terra Weekend HE pot.

Paul McLaughlin
(paul) - MLife
Re: Debating stoves on 02/13/2012 17:49:33 MST Print View

Snow peak, and have a great time. Perfect timing by the way.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Debating stoves on 02/14/2012 12:58:57 MST Print View

Ben Whitsett wrote: > I'm probably over thinking this, but curious what others think. I'm planning a 3 week JMT trip and the stove options are giving me the most trouble. I own a MSR Dragonfly, a Snow Peak LiteMax Titanium Stove and a White Box stove. I love them all! Anyone of an opinion on a late Aug/early Sept JMT trip?
Ben,

If you've got a LiteMax and an Optimus Terra heat exchanger cookset, your efficiency may approach that of a Jetboil. I'd say you've got a good system and that there's no compelling reason to upgrade (although the Ti JB would probably be lighter).

On a side note, everything I've seen come from WhiteBox has been really good stuff, so nothing negative to say there. However, the WhiteBox stove is a little more tuned towards speed than efficiency in my experience. You generally will have to carry a bit more fuel with a WhiteBox stove than with other stoves. The faster boil time may be just what you want, but the additional fuel requirement is something to keep in mind.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Debating stoves on 02/14/2012 13:48:21 MST Print View

3 weeks - you start to need reliability and performance.
You all KNOW I am biased, but I would still say the Snow Peak.

Cheers

Steve S
(idahosteve) - F

Locale: Idaho
Re: Debating stoves on 02/14/2012 14:06:05 MST Print View

I have a LiteMax, and I LOVE it! Last year on the SHR I used it for 8 days worth of meals. I cooked morning and night, and with a cozy on a Wally world usa cup I was able to get all my fuel use out of ONE small 4oz can. I still had fuel leftover when I got to Mammoth. If you use the technique of bringing your water to a boil, or almost a boil, then cozy it, you can be extremely efficient with fuel.

Edited by idahosteve on 02/14/2012 14:06:52 MST.

Ben Whitsett
(BenWhitsett) - F
re on 02/14/2012 18:50:56 MST Print View

Thanks guys! LiteMax is my fave anyway!!!! I can boil 14 pots of 16oz of h20 on 1 Snow Peak canister. Speaking of kozying my meals.... I just picked up an Optimus (H)eat pouch. Though putting inside my jacket on cool night might still happen.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Debating stoves on 02/16/2012 22:50:25 MST Print View

Hi, Ben,

I think the LiteMax is a great choice.

Interestingly, I just took delivery of a Kovea Camp 56g (aka the "Supalite"). Rumor has it that the LiteMax is just a Camp 56 with a Snow Peak label. The speculation is that Snow Peak contracted out the work to Kovea much like MSR contracted out the PocketRocket and MicroRocket to Kovea. I keep meaning to compare my Camp 56 to a LiteMax. I went by an REI recently but they didn't have a LiteMax in stock.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Ben Whitsett
(BenWhitsett) - F
"Supalite" on 02/17/2012 07:47:40 MST Print View

First picture I saw looked exactly like the LiteMax, but then I found this other. I wondered how they were different only by a few grams. Looks like your "Supalite" is a bit shorter than my LiteMax. Where did you order from? Might make a good gift for my buddy. By the way backpacking stoves make great gifts. A different travel buddy recieved a Pocket Rocket from me and loves it!Snow Peak LiteMax vs. Kovea 56g "Supalite"