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Ryan Houser
(rjhouser) - F
Looking for a 4000 ci. UL pack on 02/09/2012 17:16:47 MST Print View

Looking to hear some opinions on what is currently the lightest, most affordable, most comfortable, and best quality ultralight pack that is around the 4000 ci. size.

My base weight is about 10 lbs but I have been using the 72L Golite Quest pack which is listed at 4,392 ci. My load is a little bulky so I'm looking for something similar in size.

Also, I really like the pack lid and would really like to have a UL pack with one as well. Not using a pack cover or poncho, just a liner and dry sacks so I'm trying to keep as much water out as possible. I might be wrong about this, but the basic UL pack design that I see so much seems like it would let more water in the top.



Aaron Croft
(aaronufl) - M

Locale: Colorado
Hm on 02/09/2012 17:30:28 MST Print View

Hi Ryan,

Off the top of my head, I believe the Hyperlight Mountain Gear Expedition pack is around 4400 ci and weighs 27 oz. The Elemental Horizons Aquilo pack (in a size large) is around 4000 ci as well, and the weight varies with the removable stays.


Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F - M

Locale: Oregon
Looking for a 4000 ci. UL pack on 02/09/2012 18:08:22 MST Print View

Here's a used Golite Gust on Ebay:

I still have my old Gust and it's one of my favorites.


Edited by bigfoot2 on 02/09/2012 18:09:18 MST.

Stephan Doyle
Re: Hm on 02/09/2012 22:18:34 MST Print View

The HMG Expedition came to my mind as well.

Not the most affordable, but extra durable and extra light.

. .
(biointegra) - MLife

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: Looking for a 4000 ci. UL pack on 02/09/2012 23:42:50 MST Print View

Check out Six Moon Designs Traveller as a panel-loading option that can handle the bulk with supreme organization.

Robert Cowman
(rcowman) - F - M

Locale: Canadian Rockies
Re: Re: Looking for a 4000 ci. UL pack on 02/09/2012 23:47:53 MST Print View

granite gear Crown
Osprey exos 56

these aren't 4000ci tho there really isnt much with a lid that is light weight. Whats making your load so bulky at 10lbs?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Re: Looking for a 4000 ci. UL pack on 02/09/2012 23:56:18 MST Print View

"Whats making your load so bulky at 10lbs?"

The original poster did not claim that his load was only ten pounds. He said that his base weight was ten pounds. Add consumables, and that could mean anything for a total weight.

My own personal rule of thumb is that a pack can handle a normal load of ten pounds for every 1000 cubic inches of volume. So, a 4000 cubic inch pack should be able to haul about 40 pounds. That's quite a lot if this is really ultralightweight.

One guy claimed that he needed a huge volume in his pack so that he could haul two large bear canisters. Wow.


Ryan Houser
(rjhouser) - F
full on 02/10/2012 08:36:22 MST Print View

Well as of now my 72L pack seems filled, possibly because I have a lunar solo in the bottom of it and wasn't compressing my bag too much. I have actually been considering the MLD Exodus even though it's smaller, I think I might be able to work something out.

Jay Lash
(jjlash) - F
Golite Pinnacle on 02/10/2012 09:16:23 MST Print View

The Pinnacle has the same exact volume as the Quest but comes in at 1lb lighter (and 5lb less "max weight"). It is also on sale right now. UPS shows mine as "out for delivery"...yeah! New toy when I get home tonight.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Golite Pinnacle on 02/10/2012 09:29:02 MST Print View

A frameless 4000ci pack. Yuck.

John Myers
(dallas) - F - MLife

Locale: North Texas
Re: Looking for a 4000 ci. UL pack - ZPack? on 02/10/2012 09:59:36 MST Print View

Another option might be the ZPack Exo. I think he will make you one that comes in around 3800 ci. It's more expensive than the Pinnacle and it has a roll top instead of a lid, but it has a suspension system and weighs less than 1 lb.

Joanna Reichert
(JReichert) - F
Why not try ULA? on 02/11/2012 09:06:39 MST Print View

I love my ULA Circuit (4,200 ci) - fits me perfectly, got it in custom purple, and the build is fantastic, and 100% Made in USA. Only 36 oz.

ULA Circuit

Phillip Colelli

Locale: AT, follow@
I second the ULA on 02/11/2012 09:27:22 MST Print View

Hey Ryan whatsup?

I have a ULA ohm and it has been great (till I got my zpacks zero). The ohm is rated for 3500ci and the circuit 4200ci however on both of these that includes every nook and cranny so the main compartment is somewhat smaller. I have no experience with the larger ULA packs but the construction of my ohm is top notch. I know it's smaller than what you're looking for Ryan but seeing as you're so close to me I'd be more than happy to let you borrow my ULA ohm just to get an idea of how ULA products handle per say.

I also see someone suggested the zpacks exo. I only have a zero and again top notch quality. If you got the exo you'd have one seriously light framed pack!

Anyway I do have a question for you though. Why such a large pack? I feel like your gear could pretty easily fit your gear into a smaller pack. You, Sam, and I should go out again soon and evaluate this.

Edited by pdcolelli42 on 02/11/2012 09:29:34 MST.