I've been following a few threads here about different UL shelters, just about committed over the weekend to one, then realized it takes up a lot of territory to stake it out. I have enough trouble at times setting up my TT, floorless Squall, let alone something that has 6-10 stakes, plus, I would have to buy at least one pole as I don't use trekking poles, so with what I have added up, a few shelters come in at around a pound with some sort of bug netting insert in the weight, so I would save 10 ozs. over my current Squall. Also, I don't care at the moment to spend my income tax returns or work bonus since my Squall is perfectly fine after 6-7 seasons?. I've gotten excited enough to almost spring for a new shelter, but still sensible enough to hold off at the moment, still want that newer pickup which is my goal. Oh yeah, old stoves, I think I have most I would like to have, except for one or two. That should help my budget hundreds every month.