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Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
Virus from a water source? on 01/16/2012 08:48:47 MST Print View

I was wondering if anyone could comment on how easy it would be to pick up a virus from a water source? I have an inline Sawyer water filter that is 0.10 micron and it blocks just about everything but viruses which the 0.02 filter does. I have always wondered if it was easy to get a virus or not or if it is just one of those things more reserved to third world countries. Thanks.

HK Newman
(hknewman) - MLife

Locale: Western US
Re: Virus from a water source? on 01/16/2012 09:03:15 MST Print View

Maybe the closer you are to human settlement that doesn't treat its sewage discharge (viruses like hepatitis).

j lan
(justaddfuel) - F

Locale: MN
Re: Virus from a water source? on 01/16/2012 09:41:46 MST Print View

Only really a concern near the equator.

Edit: Wow, that link below mine really opened my eyes!

Edited by justaddfuel on 01/18/2012 15:13:23 MST.

Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
Virus from a water source? on 01/16/2012 13:45:16 MST Print View

Some very good information on this post:

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=21774&disable_pagination=1

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Virus from a water source? on 01/16/2012 13:49:40 MST Print View

VERY possible (even likely) downstream of any human habitation, especially downstream of any STP.

Sue and I were almost unconscious for 24 hours that way. Fortunately we had got home before it struck.

Cheers

Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
maybe not 0.02 then on 01/16/2012 14:21:19 MST Print View

I thought a Sawyer 0.02 filter might be a better long term solution for water but i see it does not get rid of a lot of the viruses. The Steripen Adventurer looks like an answer but I wish it used standard batteries that could be bought as rechargeables.

Edited by bpeugh on 01/16/2012 14:25:17 MST.

Bradley Danyluk
(dasbin) - MLife
Steripen on 01/16/2012 14:39:37 MST Print View

Rechargeable 123a's work fine in an Adventurer. These are a standard battery format. Lots of chargers out there.

If for some reason you need AA's, there is the Classic.

Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
where? on 01/16/2012 14:45:55 MST Print View

Really, where? The Classic looks okay also and the Freedom also but I don't know where to get a micro USB b port solar charger that is reliable. But then I really don't know how to get a solar charger that will connect to a AA or the batteries the Adventurer uses that is reliable either.

Edited by bpeugh on 01/16/2012 14:47:08 MST.

Bradley Danyluk
(dasbin) - MLife
Freedom on 01/16/2012 14:52:42 MST Print View

Oh, cool - I haven't seen the Freedom before. I think I want a new toy. The micro USB adapter cable is included with the unit. You just need any charger, solar or otherwise, that has a regular old USB port. Plenty of them out there.

As for charging 123a's, or AA,'s my solution was an Ansmann Vario Pro charger, which accepts input from a 12v nominal solar panel (lighter plug). It will do either in the field and is small and light.

But honestly, field solar solutions that actually work are big, heavy, complex things and very rarely worth the effort (over just carrying extra batteries). I have a 10-watt unit. The whole setup weighs nearly a pound... and you still need sun :) It can charge anything electronic in my kit, but you can carry a whole lot of extra batteries for a lots less than a pound, and not have the fuss.

Manfred Kopisch
(Orienteering) - F
Solar Charger for AA batteries and USB on 01/16/2012 15:07:51 MST Print View

For the last two years I have had good experiences with the PowerFilm Chargers. I own two versions - a charger for four AA batteries and a charger for two AA & USB. My long-term experience is so far limited to charging AAs for my SteriPen Classic, GPS, headlamp, etc. on two JMTs. So far I have used the USB charging for a weekend with the SteriPen Freedom with good results, but can't yet say how it would work for three weeks on the trail. When charging via USB you need to first charge the AAs at least partially and you can charge the USB device also from the AAs if there is no sun which might come in handy.

Manfred

Edited by Orienteering on 01/16/2012 15:09:42 MST.

Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
just have to decide now on 01/17/2012 08:26:25 MST Print View

Quite a few things to think about. Thanks.

KEN LARSON
(KENLARSON) - MLife

Locale: Western Michigan
Virus from a water source on 01/17/2012 09:06:09 MST Print View

Brett you need to check this out.....


Removal Rate: 0.02 Micron Absolute!
• Viral Purification: The first (and thus far only) portable filtration device to remove viruses mechanically. It does so at a 5.5 log (99.9997%) rate, exceeding EPA and NSF recommendations.
• Viruses:
Hepatitis A (HAV), Poliovirus, Norwalk, Rotavirus, Adenovirus, Hepatitis E (HEV), Coxsackievirus, Echovirus, Reovirus, Astrovirus, Coronavirus (SARS)

Complete test data: Virus removal test of Sawyer 7/6BV Filter

Edited by KENLARSON on 01/17/2012 09:11:03 MST.