I purposefully chose to respond here to Jeffrey's post, and not Ron Moak's --- which is a short version of my long winded thoughts. That is because I entirely respect Jeffrey's response to me, feel I need to respond, and totally respect Ron Moak (of Guru status in my mind) at the same time.
Jeffrey -- Thank you for your post, I am not criticizing nor am I condemning what you wrote previously. Thank you.
If this is taken for granted to be a world in which the majority of people do not care about wilderness or the value of wilderness, then people who do care need to condition their converstations on that recognition of a matter of fact -- they don't care and are greedy. Talking about or to those people will really not get you anywhere. That is and was my sole point previously.
To fight with people with more money, more power, and generally with the freedom to accomplish their goals at your expense is foolish -- although it is understandable, laudable, and I will and would support it to do so. (Don't think I am saying all this because I am a wuss.)
People like Ron Moak and pj have taught me, inspired me, and are providing me with both insight and gear here by their endeavors. I would not otherwise have either the gear or the insight to write this.
Therefore, all I was saying is, to quote an old phrase, "give peace a chance" -- especially dealing with Rodale and publishers or other business interests who might help in building what I can only call an "UltrLIte Consciousness".
I have seen more fights between people than I wished, as a lawyer, because they wouldn't respect each other in the first instance and in the second insisted on beating on each other, when it could produce no good result, ultimately, for either. I think, unless proven wrong, with the size of what I perceive as the growing UL movement or reality, those people (Rodale, et al.) will listen and listen even more seriously as the UL community in a directed, concentrated, and articulate manner addresses the Backpaker magazines or individuals of the world with sharp, coherent comments. So go for it Ron, pj, Jeffrey and the rest .... one for all and all for one -- but watch out for my tent or tarp space, a grizzly I might want to handle but not a human.