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The MSRatauk SuperGnat (Gaz *and* Threaded!)
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Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Orange County, CA, USA
The MSRatauk SuperGnat (Gaz *and* Threaded!) on 01/08/2012 18:40:23 MST Print View

There are two types of modern gas canisters for backpacking (see Backpacking Gas Canisters 101 for further information).

Generally, stoves built for one type of canister only work with that type of canister. For example, Camping Gaz stoves generally only work with Camping Gaz canisters. However, there are a few exceptions. Unfortunately, those exceptions aren't very lightweight. However, there is a relatively lightweight stove that will use either Camping Gaz or threaded canisters that you can assemble yourself in only a few minutes. This post shows you how if you'd like to try. Check out the The SuperGnat.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: The MSRatauk SuperGnat (Gaz *and* Threaded!) on 01/08/2012 18:45:11 MST Print View

Where did you find a disassembled Gnat?

--B.G.--

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Orange County, CA, USA
SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 19:04:20 MST Print View

Under my fly swatter of course. :)

Special thanks to Bob Gross who provided the Gnat for this testing.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 19:11:43 MST Print View

"Special thanks to Bob Gross who provided the Gnat for this testing."

You disassembled my Gnat?

That wasn't part of the deal.

I guess you won't be getting anymore stoves from me.

--B.G.--

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Orange County, CA, USA
Re: Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 19:38:53 MST Print View

Well, yes, but only the standard disassembly one would do to clean the jet. I didn't even remove the jet which I would have if a real problem were to develop on any stove.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 19:41:52 MST Print View

OK, you win, HJ.

You keep the stove. I don't want it back.

I'll even tell you where you can store it.

I think other readers of that web site might want to think twice before trying to help.

--B.G.--

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 19:47:34 MST Print View

I would not be thrilled with somebody taking my things apart either. I don't loan stuff out.

Did you ask? No. BG is right to be upset.

Edited by kthompson on 01/08/2012 19:50:12 MST.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 19:50:41 MST Print View

Ken, I think we agree. I won't be loaning stuff out in the future.

I already have a new intact Monatauk Gnat on order, and it won't be leaving my sight.

--B.G.--

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Orange County, CA, USA
Re: Re: Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 20:35:42 MST Print View

Well. It sounds like I misjudged. Bob, I publicly apologize to you. Bad judgement at least on my part.

There is absolutely no damage of any kind to the Gnat, but I should have asked.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
The MSRatauk SuperGnat (Gaz *and* Threaded!) on 01/08/2012 20:46:14 MST Print View

That is terrible.
let's it, Jim is officially off my Christmas list.
Franco

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Re: Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 21:47:09 MST Print View

"Bad judgement at least on my part."

Look on the bright side. That saves you the cost of shipping it back to me.

For one thing, I virtually never borrow things from people, specifically for this reason. Even if I did, I would never think of taking a borrowed item apart without asking. Too many times, there is some special factory sealant or gotcha that was never expected.

--B.G.--

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Re: Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 22:29:50 MST Print View

I have to agree with Jim here. Unscrewing the burner column from the valve base is an expected part of owner maintenance. It's the only way of getting to the jet.

Cheers
PS: FOUR current butane/propane canister types:
Screw thread
CampingGaz twist-clik
Coleman Powermax (even if officially discontinued)
Fly-spray can nipple (paint can, hair spray ...)

ALL have Lindal valves inside.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Re: Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 22:33:00 MST Print View

Excellent. HJ, Roger wants you to send the Gnat to him.

I've never had to get to a butane jet. If that is an expected part of owner maintenance, then you better explain that to the Monatauk company.

--B.G.--

Benjamin Ludwig
(Ender) - F

Locale: Mid-West
Free Stoves?! on 01/08/2012 22:48:47 MST Print View

Hey everyone, feel free to send me a free stove any time you like lol ;)

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 22:52:56 MST Print View

Roger, Jim is not the owner. That is the point.
I have yet to have to take apart a canister stove in over 30 years of camping. My current stove is 10 years old.

Bob Bankhead
(wandering_bob) - MLife

Locale: Oregon, USA
SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 23:01:28 MST Print View

ENOUGH ALREADY, FOLKS!

It is obvious the SuperGnat has royally flamed Jim's a$$.

He has publicly admitted his error and has also publicly apologized.



So let's drop it and move forward......please!

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: SuperGnat! on 01/08/2012 23:32:39 MST Print View

"So let's drop it and move forward......please!"

Sure. I have the replacement stove on order.

HJ doesn't have to pay for the return shipment to me, so he saves some more bucks, unless he ships it to Roger.

--B.G.--

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: SuperGnat! forward. on 01/08/2012 23:35:21 MST Print View

I am good with Jim, there Bob.
I do suggest however that Jim should be posting these links to articles on his excellent blog in the On the Web forum.

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Great info. Thanks, Jim. on 01/09/2012 00:28:56 MST Print View

Back to the original topic:

Jim, That's a nice way to more fully utilize the stove. Bopping around Africa or Asia, you can find the most unexpected things available or unavailable, IME. Having twice the canister options would be sweet.

And, when you want the basic, less flexible Gnat with its lighter weight (when you know you can get threaded canisters), it is a really quick swap back.

If I loan you my Prius, would you put a battery-only button in it like the Japanese models have? There have been numerous times I've wanted that option.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SuperGnat! on 01/09/2012 02:05:55 MST Print View

Hi Ken and Bob

I agree that one does not often need to clean a jet, but it has happened. Primus imported a line of canisters into Australia some time ago which had obviously been made by a Chinese firm rather cheaply and sold to Primus as a 'great deal'. The mixture was of rather variable composition and the gas was full of very fine dust. The dust caused me a lot of hassle until I took all the canitsers back to the shop and demanded my money back. (Got it too.) There's a moral here somewhere...

Cheers