Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park.
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Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 15:16:00 MST Print View

Routine traffic stop:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/53213765-68/park-national-ranger-mount.html.csp

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 15:53:46 MST Print View

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo/article/Park-ranger-fatally-shot-at-Mount-Rainier-2435973.php More is coming in, but not enough yet :-(

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 16:06:39 MST Print View

More details:
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Park-ranger-shot-at-Mt-Rainier-136505028.html

I'll keep watch; this is devastating news for all in the Pacific NW. We lost an Olympic National Forest ranger similarly a couple of years ago, also a mother of young children.

My profound sympathies to Ms. Anderson's family and the entire MRNP staff!

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 16:08:27 MST Print View

I understand the routine traffic stop, but I don't understand why the deceased ranger had set her vehicle as a roadblock, as was reported. A roadblock and a traffic stop are kind of two different things.

They ought to get the shooter.

--B.G.--

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Re: Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 16:26:22 MST Print View

Bob: Agreed, when I saw the headline, I thought, "More peace officers die doing routine traffic stops than anything else." They do so many and know nothing about who they are stopping.

But then there is mention of a road block and I want to know why there was a road block? We they looking for this guy? Drunk drivers? Checking for permits?

Regardless, a tradegy for the family, the park and the area.

It's a much smaller, but more pervasive tradegy that park rangers are now hired mostly for their law enforcement roles rather than as educators, rescuers, and stewards of the land.

Bob Bankhead
(wandering_bob) - MLife

Locale: Oregon, USA
Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 16:27:51 MST Print View

And they shouldn't don't bother trying to bring the perp in alive so some politically correct public defender can show how he was abused as a child or is mentally ill and needs loving care rather than incarceration.....to say nothing of the waste of public funds.

I suspect this perp will start shooting as soon as he sees the local LEOs. Shoot to protect yourself and others. Keep shooting until the magazine is empty or until the threat is gone, whichever uses up the most ammo!



addedum: The NPS has two kinds of rangers; the unarmed Ranger-Rick types and the sworn, armed law enforcement or NPS Police types.

Edited by wandering_bob on 01/01/2012 16:29:37 MST.

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park on 01/01/2012 17:03:53 MST Print View

A few more details, updated as of 3:26 pm PST:
http://today.seattletimes.com/2012/01/park-ranger-shot-at-mount-rainier/

Evidently it was a felony stop, with several LE rangers chasing the perp up the road to Paradise (scary place for a chase!). That's why the road block.

Quite a few visitors at Paradise have been locked into the visitor center for safety. They can't get out without passing the perpetrator.

They really need a sharpshooter team in there since the perp has a rifle! I pray that nobody else (except, of course, the perp) gets shot!

Edited by hikinggranny on 01/01/2012 17:06:38 MST.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park on 01/01/2012 17:14:56 MST Print View

"Evidently it was a felony stop, with several LE rangers chasing the perp up the road to Paradise (scary place for a chase!). That's why the road block."

No, that explains why there was a road block after the shooting. The original news said that the deceased ranger had set up a road block before the shooting, but it was not obvious why.

--B.G.--

Steve Cain
(hoosierdaddy) - F

Locale: Western Washington
Re: Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park on 01/01/2012 17:19:34 MST Print View

Several of us local "regulars" around here historically do a New Years day snowshoe hike at Paradise today. Didn't happen this year, though. Sure wish I would have been there & could have helped out the rangers.

Edited by hoosierdaddy on 01/01/2012 17:20:50 MST.

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park on 01/01/2012 17:46:32 MST Print View

Per the Seattle Times source I cited above:

"The incident started about 10:15 a.m., Taylor said, when park rangers attempted to pull over a vehicle on the road just above Longmire. The car kept going.

"When officers radioed that the suspect failed to stop, Anderson, in another vehicle, set up a roadblock by pulling her car across the road a mile or so south of Paradise at a pull out known as Barns Flat."

This is normal police procedure in "failure to stop" cases.

I suspect we'll see more clarification later once things are resolved. While such events are going on, it's hard to get accurate information, because the authorities have more important things to do than spend a lot of time with reporters (who have been known to get things incorrect, anyway).

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park on 01/01/2012 17:47:47 MST Print View

Presumably the FBI is being called in--federal officer on federal property.

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park on 01/01/2012 17:49:16 MST Print View

HD...I was thinking the same sad thing. I miss our yearly NYD snowshoeing trips. Just so awful.

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 17:49:58 MST Print View

Bob, I disagree with police state killing of any and all suspects without a trial.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 17:52:05 MST Print View

Barnes needs to be put down like a rabid skunk for shooting a federal officer and mother of two. No trial needed.

Edited by jshann on 01/01/2012 20:17:15 MST.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 17:53:43 MST Print View

"Bob, I disagree with police state killing of any and all suspects without a trial."

The shooter seems to be bent on suicide by cop.

--B.G.--

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park on 01/01/2012 17:56:34 MST Print View

I don't approve of "execution" killings, either, but here we have an extremely dangerous perpetrator armed with a rifle. Taking him out with a sharpshooter team is most likely the only way they're going to be able to get near him, unless he runs out of ammo or succumbs to hypothermia.

As I stated earlier, we probably won't get a lot of detail until the situation is resolved.

Edited by hikinggranny on 01/01/2012 17:58:21 MST.

Steve Cain
(hoosierdaddy) - F

Locale: Western Washington
Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park on 01/01/2012 18:48:33 MST Print View

Person of interest named now. There had been a shooting in the early morning hours in the fairly close by town of Skyway where 4 people were shot after a dispute at a party. Apparently the same guy.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Person-of-interest-in-park-rangers-death-a-suspect-in-earlier-shooting-136513003.html

Edited by hoosierdaddy on 01/01/2012 18:52:11 MST.

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Re: Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 18:50:24 MST Print View

But who is the shooter? Having a suspect isn't good enough. Maybe I suspect you. You okay with me executing you? Just in case.

Steve Cain
(hoosierdaddy) - F

Locale: Western Washington
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park. on 01/01/2012 18:53:52 MST Print View

Eugene...you talking to me?

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Ranger dies, shooter still on the loose in Mt. Rainier Nat. Park on 01/01/2012 19:28:05 MST Print View

Bump, to get this thread on top of the one someone else started later.

Latest update, not much new:
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Person-of-interest-in-park-rangers-death-a-suspect-in-earlier-shooting-136513003.html