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Grand Canyon, can go anywhere for 2 nights, what would you do?
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Charles Henry
(Chuckie_Cheese)

Locale: Arizona and British Columbia
Grand Canyon, can go anywhere for 2 nights, what would you do? on 12/29/2011 14:13:11 MST Print View

Going to grand Canyon for 2 nights in the next week. I have a shuttle.

What trailheads and route do you recommend? I've done Tanner before.

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
re: Grand canyon on 12/29/2011 14:20:07 MST Print View

Down New Hance, across the Tonto, out South Kaibab.

Sumi Wada
(DetroitTigerFan) - F

Locale: Ann Arbor
Re: Grand Canyon, can go anywhere for 2 nights, what would you do? on 12/29/2011 19:27:34 MST Print View

Gotta admit, I'd never want to do New Hance to South Kaibab with 2 nights; that's a 5-nighter in my book. New Hance to Grandview is doable; camp at Hance rapids and Hance Creek.

You could circumvent Horseshoe Mesa. At large camping at Cottonwood Creek and second night on the Mesa or Hance Creek. You'd probably have the place to yourself. Trailhead would be Grandview.

Or down South Kaibab and then explore Phantom Creek via Utah Flats route. Second night at Bright Angel campground. I hear Phantom Ranch is a fun place to be this week.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
2 Nights on 12/29/2011 20:42:20 MST Print View

1st night > Kaibab Trail down to Phantom Ranch (start early)

2nd night > Bright Angel Trail up to Indian Gardens

3rd day > Indian Gardens back up to parking lot.

Charles Henry
(Chuckie_Cheese)

Locale: Arizona and British Columbia
Re: 2 Nights on 12/29/2011 21:08:26 MST Print View

What about the mule dung on the bright angel trail? Is it a significant turn off for a backpacking experience?

James W.
(jimmyjam)

Locale: Mid Atlantic
Re: Two Nights on 12/30/2011 06:49:13 MST Print View

On the BA Trail you will have lots of mule p**p & pee. I've only done it in the spring and early summer and in some areas it was heavy and kinda gross and the flies were terrible. Flies probably won't be a problem now and the dung is probably less as I doubt they are running as many mules in the winter. You might need some crampons, but you rent those there at the BA lodge.

Elizabeth Tracy
(mariposa) - M

Locale: Outside
3 options on 12/30/2011 13:23:50 MST Print View

1. Least rugged, most well-worn: South Kaibab/Bright Angel loop (see post on mule p**p).

2. Medium-rugged: Boucher-Hermit loop (first night at Boucher Rapids; second day, hike the Tonto Trail to Hermit and camp there)

3. Most-rugged/most solitude: New Hance-Grandview. Note New Hance Trail is not maintained; you must be comfortable with occasionally having to look for cairns marking the route, or scooting down a couple of boulders on your butt. It's still Class 1/a little Class 2 and no exposure. But I would not take a newbie down it.

#2 and #3 are equally gorgeous. I'd choose #3 if I want solitude, but if it's beyond the abilities of anyone in the group I'd choose #2. If you have any true newbies, they will feel a lot more comfortable with #1.

- Elizabeth

Sumi Wada
(DetroitTigerFan) - F

Locale: Ann Arbor
Re: Re: 2 Nights on 12/30/2011 16:50:54 MST Print View

>> What about the mule dung on the bright angel trail? Is it a significant turn off for a backpacking experience?

The mule trains now go down BA trail and come up South Kaibab, so it's impossible to avoid on the South Rim corridor trails. But the trains are half the size as they used to be and it's only in one direction on each trail. It's the smell that bothers me but it doesn't seem to bother everyone.

Boucher has some stretches of significant exposure (before Yuma Point) that I would be wary of if there is snow or ice.

C Nugget
(nuggetwn)

Locale: Pacific Northwest
2 nights on 01/01/2012 22:55:42 MST Print View

Bright Angel Trail - Tonto - Horn Creek - Salt Creek Camp
Salt Creek - Monument Creek - Hermit Creek Camp (or Hermit Rapid)
Hermit Creek Camp - out Hermit or vica versa

-christy

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
Grandview loop on 01/02/2012 12:02:52 MST Print View

New Hance and out Grandview is a dayhike.

;)

Carl Zimmerman
(CarlZ993) - MLife
2-night Grand Canyon Hike on 01/03/2012 12:01:10 MST Print View

The Boucher/Hermit Creek Loop is nice. Boucher is pretty steep, tho. You will have aircraft flying overhead (unlike the no-fly zone over corridor trails).

Another possibility is Hermit Rest to Bright Angel TH. 1st night @ Monument Creek. 2nd night @ Indian Gardens. 3 day, hike out.

I've hiked down Hermit Trail in early March. Not much snow & no ice when I did it. That trail gets a lot of sun, unlike the top of Bright Angel or S. Kaibab.

Sumi Wada
(DetroitTigerFan) - F

Locale: Ann Arbor
Re: Grandview loop on 01/04/2012 09:33:45 MST Print View

>> New Hance and out Grandview is a dayhike. ;)

Ah but then you'd never know if you can hike Hance Creek to the river... or Cottonwood Creek. Missing out on the best stuff! :)

HK Newman
(hknewman) - MLife

Locale: Western US
Re: Re: 2 Nights on 01/04/2012 09:40:33 MST Print View

What about the mule dung on the bright angel trail? Is it a significant turn off for a backpacking experience?

Going up you really don't notice, it's more about keeping your pace. Going down could be a problem if you don't watch your step. Not a good place to do a face plant.

HK Newman
(hknewman) - MLife

Locale: Western US
Re: Grand Canyon, can go anywhere for 2 nights, what would you do? on 01/04/2012 09:44:35 MST Print View

Probably an early day down to Horseshoe Mesa to explore. Your last day will be mostly vertical .....up

Assuming you can get permits of course.