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Robert Kelly
(QiWiz) - MLife

Locale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
Could this be the ultimate UL backpacking saw? on 12/22/2011 12:32:39 MST Print View

August 26, 2013 UPDATE: Larger 24" MEGA Buck saw also available

Saw, trowel, and stove info: QiWiz.net

Before placing an order, please check the shipping page on my website (a link to this page is available on any page that you order from).

The second generation Little Buck, is an improved design, featuring a rock-stable windlass configuration and a new cushy handle grip. Best of all, even with the design improvements, it only weighs 3.95 ounces! The padded grip, which is removable, adds another half ounce. This makes it less than half the weight of any other 15 inch saw available, including bow saws, pruning saws, Sawvivor saws, and Sven saws. Most of these weigh at least a half pound more. Here’s what it looks like assembled:

LB3G2013

You may seldom use a saw, depending on where and when you backpack, and your own preferences. I use my own Little Buck for trail clearing and related trail maintenance and to cut firewood in the winter (when fires are permitted and there’s an existing fire ring). I really like that it can collapse down to a small bundle rolled up in a bandana or tyvek pouch (see below), and get tucked into my pack side pocket just in case I need it.

The saw uses three custom aluminum alloy tubes for the structural members, a very high quality Swedish steel saw blade (identical to the one sold with the 15” Sawvivor saw), and 4 feet of non-stretch Spectra cord for the tightening windlass (so that after assembly it does not loosen as you use it). It breaks down into a 15 by 2 inch bundle, assembles in less than a minute, and has no stray parts to lose. The saw blade works well for both green and dry wood. Check out the videos on my website or YouTube to see the saw assembled, cutting a good size log, and rolled up for transport in a bandana or the new tyvek pouch.

The Little Buck is $55, including shipping in the USA. Add $3 (total of $58) if you want the tyvek storage pouch. If you live outside the USA, international shipping is available. I will ship in a sturdy tube and include an illustrated “owners manual”.

You know you don't NEED it but you know you WANT it ; )

Check out the new Little Buck Videos:
Assembly, disassembly, bandana roll-up - www.youtube.com/watch?v=M36rgcDWoQY
Cutting a hefty log in jig time - www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dr8gOly4cQ
New tyvek pouch option demonstrated - www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qm-qoEjxwk

New tyvek pouch option illustrated below: includes a fiberglass mesh tape
reinforcement of blade pocket, velcro closure, and weighs only 13 grams!

tyvekpouch1
tyvekpouch2

PayPal orders or questions can be left for me at: QiWiz.net

Truth be told, this is lighter by more than a half ounce compared
to my bandana, so I'm goin' tyvek! Can you cut it? You betcha!

Edited by QiWiz on 08/26/2013 13:08:03 MDT.

Noel Tavan
(akatsuki_the_devil) - MLife
re on 12/22/2011 14:13:48 MST Print View

That looks like a really neat saw. Looking at the picture, it seems like it would be very hard to setup. Anyway you could shoot a little video of it on how to assemble it? It might help with your sale. Include a little field test and that would be even better.

Thanks.
Noel

Bryce F.
(bster13) - MLife

Locale: Norwalk, CT
Video on 12/22/2011 14:18:26 MST Print View

V1 of the saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvL8caLuAg

Robert Kelly
(QiWiz) - MLife

Locale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
It is actually very easy to set up on 12/22/2011 14:37:08 MST Print View

The 2G is as easy or easier than the first generation Little Buck to set up. It does take less than a minute, no kidding . . .

Check out the new Little Buck Videos:
Assembly, disassembly, bandana roll-up - www.youtube.com/watch?v=M36rgcDWoQY
Cutting a hefty log in jig time - www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dr8gOly4cQ
New tyvek pouch option demonstrated - www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qm-qoEjxwk

Here are the steps:

On a relatively flat surface, slip the slotted ends of vertical tubes over the blade ends (metal rings go around the slotted ends, see photo).

Put the horizontal spreader tube into place
(there are nylon nubs that the tube goes onto and that keep it from moving up or down)

Slip the Spectra cord loops over the top of the vertical tubes

Use a small 3"-4" twig or stick to tighten the windlass

Go cut some wood!

Edited by QiWiz on 01/22/2012 09:29:18 MST.

Laurens Wit
(LaurensWit) - MLife
Little Buck 2G Amazing! on 12/28/2011 16:27:03 MST Print View

I just got the new Little Buck 2G in the mail today.
I'm totally impressed Rob, it cut easily through a piece of maple log I had kicking around.
Well done ! I'm always inspired when a small business makes something that kicks butt.

Robert Kelly
(QiWiz) - MLife

Locale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
The new Little Buck 2G video is available! on 01/03/2012 12:59:13 MST Print View

Now you can see it assembled, disassembled, and rolled into a bandana carry. All this and more in an ultralight 3.5 minutes!

Check it out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=M36rgcDWoQY

Michael Schwartz
(greenwalk) - MLife

Locale: PA & Ireland
Could this be the ultimate UL backpacking saw? on 01/03/2012 13:18:45 MST Print View

Hey Rob, the new vid looks great. How about part 2 that shows the saw in action? --Mike

Robert Kelly
(QiWiz) - MLife

Locale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
Cutting wood video . . . on 01/03/2012 13:23:38 MST Print View

I knew someone would ask for it, so now I have made one . . .
I think you will all be impressed.

Cutting a hefty log in jig time - www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dr8gOly4cQ

Edited by QiWiz on 01/22/2012 09:30:48 MST.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: Santa Rosa, CA
Re: Could this be the ultimate UL backpacking saw? on 01/03/2012 13:24:50 MST Print View

That's awesome! Impressive weight. I would love to see something like this in the 24 inch size for cutting serious logs for big long log fires in winter.
The bigger trail blazers can get pretty heavy.

Robert Kelly
(QiWiz) - MLife

Locale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
Could a Big Buck saw be coming your way? on 01/03/2012 13:45:01 MST Print View

You are not the first to ask about a 24" model. I'm pretty sure it could be done, though the two side tubes would have to be beefed up a bit (which would add some weight, though probably still pretty featherweight for its size).

I'll be working on it and keep you posted.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: Santa Rosa, CA
Re: Could a Big Buck saw be coming your way? on 01/03/2012 14:37:16 MST Print View

That would be great. It would be heavier, but probably still light relative to it's size. When I get more spending cash I would definitley purchase both.
You know.... if you made an account on bushcraft usa and subscribed to a vendor account I bet you could sell a lot of these there.

Edited by justin_baker on 01/03/2012 22:07:19 MST.

Robert Kelly
(QiWiz) - MLife

Locale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
I think I'll call it . . . (drum roll) . . . "The Big Buck" ! on 01/03/2012 21:27:17 MST Print View

I have ordered materials to make eight 24 inch UL Buck Saws as a test run. Weight is likely to be about 8 ounces. Side tubes will have 50% thicker alloy walls for greater strength (since they will have greater tightening leverage applied to them). All dimensions will be about 50% larger than the Little Buck.

Imagine a 24-inch saw, able to tackle seriously major sawing chores, that weighs only as much as a cup of water (without the cup)?

Saw fans, stay tuned . . .


Justin - the idea of becoming a Bushcraft vendor is an interesting one, that I'm actually thinking about pursuing. I appreciate the suggestion.

Edited by QiWiz on 01/03/2012 21:30:31 MST.

Matt B
(mbnow) - MLife

Locale: New England
Little Buck on 01/08/2012 10:41:26 MST Print View

Hi Robert,

The little buck Looks great!

Do you have one ready to ship?

i am heading out late next week and would pay for faster shipping if its possible.

thanks,


Matt B.

david delabaere
(davidvcd) - M

Locale: Northern VA
Re: Little Buck on 01/08/2012 12:19:44 MST Print View

I just got my saw and trowel.
Shipped on thursday got it saturday yesterday.

saw 4.5oz with the stick
big trowel 0.5oz

Robert Kelly
(QiWiz) - MLife

Locale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
How speedy do you need? on 01/08/2012 13:20:07 MST Print View

Matt -
I can send a Little Buck by first class mail tomorrow at the usual price of $49 or for $5 more by priority mail if you need it even faster.

Matt B
(mbnow) - MLife

Locale: New England
little buck on 01/08/2012 13:48:58 MST Print View

Robert,

I'm a big fan of instant gratification, so i'll paypal you $54 immediately.

Much appreciated, and sorry to trouble you on a Sunday... Bad online etiquette?

Matt B.

Robert Kelly
(QiWiz) - MLife

Locale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
Weekend orders OK on 01/13/2012 09:02:37 MST Print View

No problem with weekend orders and/or questions. Unless I'm out of town, have saws ready to go and can mail the next day that the post office is open.

BTW, if you have a 1st gen Little Buck, I have developed a conversion kit that includes the new cushy grip option and full instructions for the conversion process to make your Little Buck into the NEW IMPROVED LITTLE BUCK 2G! You will need to use a hacksaw to shorten the two vertical tubes from 12 to 9.5 inches in length. You should have received an email from me about this, but if not, please contact me. The conversion kit is yours, shipped, for $4, which is my cost for materials and postage.

Matt B
(mbnow) - MLife

Locale: New England
Little Buck 2G on 01/15/2012 13:59:10 MST Print View

Robert,

Received the Little Buck 2g on friday. Everything looks great. Cant wait to try it out.
Unfortunately it missed my Hike out friday. No big deal. i was carrying too much anyway.

A couple of design questions i have is...
if the blade becomes jammed while cutting and i pull upwards, is it possible for the blade to slip off?
Would a notch in the aluminum for the rings to sit in eliminate this? this possible non problem.
Also a notch in the aluminum where the tension strings loop over as opposed to a zip tie?
And finally drilling a hole in the aluminum and threading the tension string through/ tying a knot where the tension string is permanently attached. eliminating another zip tie.


Please feel free to ignore my 2 cents. You have already created a great thing.

thanks again.

Matt B.

Robert Kelly
(QiWiz) - MLife

Locale: UL gear @ QiWiz.net
Questions and Answers . . . on 01/15/2012 21:44:16 MST Print View

Matt -

Q: "If the blade becomes jammed while cutting and i pull upwards, is it possible for the blade to slip off? Would a notch in the aluminum for the rings to sit in eliminate this? this possible non problem."

A: If the windlass is tight, the shape of the saw (wider as you go down to the blade) makes it so the blade will not slip, though with extreme force I suppose anything is possible. If it did happen, a notch for the rings would be a good modification, and I considered this idea myself early on. However, in my use and testing of the saw this has not happened. Also, no one who has purchased a Little Buck has reported this problem.

Q: "Also a notch in the aluminum where the tension strings loop over as opposed to a zip tie?"

A: This would work but I'd be concerned about the Spectra being abraded by a notch in the aluminum. The pair of zip ties you would save weigh only 1 gram.

Q: "And finally drilling a hole in the aluminum and threading the tension string through/ tying a knot where the tension string is permanently attached. eliminating another zip tie."

A: Well, you would save 1 gram by eliminating a pair of zip ties, but you would weaken the vertical tubes with the drilled hole (bad) and lose the nylon nub that helps to hold the spreader bar exactly where you want it (bad).

Also: Glad you appreciate the saw. Don't know why it took till Friday to get to you as it was sent Priority Mail on Monday. So much for the "two to three day" delivery.

Matt B
(mbnow) - MLife

Locale: New England
Re: Questions and Answers . . . on 01/16/2012 05:13:57 MST Print View

Robert,

Thanks for the thoughtful response.
keep up the good work!


Matt B.