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Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Boots for Michigan and East Coast Winters on 12/17/2011 12:10:52 MST Print View

Hi folks,

I am moving to Michigan from Europe soon and think my -15C rated Scarpas will not be warm enough.
Intended use will be for General hiking, snow shoeing and East Coast steep stuff with crampons.

Any recommendations.

Cheers,

Stephen

Edited by stephenm on 12/17/2011 12:11:43 MST.

chuck w
(kcwins) - F

Locale: WY
MI on 12/17/2011 12:18:40 MST Print View

First, welcome to MI. Some of the best BPing in the Midwest is right here. NMI, MRT, NCT, HCP, Pictured Rocks National Lake Shore, Porcupine Mtns., Isle Royle, etc....

I use Sorel's for my winter activities. I'll have to check on exactly what model they are, but they are comfort rated to -60* F and cost around $190.... I think.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
"Boots for Michigan and East Coast Winters" on 12/23/2011 03:38:53 MST Print View

Hi Chuck,

Thansk for the reply.

Cheers,

Stephen

rOg w
(rOg_w) - F - M

Locale: rogwilmers.wordpress
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Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: The North Face Chilcats on 12/23/2011 07:09:50 MST Print View

Hiya Rog,

Hope all is well mate.

Cheers for the recommendations, those boots do look nice and warm :-)

Happy Holidays :-)

Stephen

Ben F
(tekhna) - F
Garmonts on 12/23/2011 07:27:45 MST Print View

I'm rocking the momentums, they're awesome.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
"Boots for Michigan and East Coast Winters" on 12/23/2011 07:38:10 MST Print View

Cheers Ben,

I just tried a lower volume foot bed in my Scarpa Freneys and they will allow to wear much thicker socks, I will try them out oin the cold when I move to Michigan in a month :-)

David Goodyear
(dmgoody) - MLife

Locale: mid-west
Michigan on 12/23/2011 07:56:00 MST Print View

It's not that cold here yet. Not much to climb unless you go th da UP eh. We use the Baffin Terrains for most of our off trail stuff. plenty warm, but they are waterproof. When we need total breathability and deep cold - we go to custom mukluks made by empire canvas.

Welcome,

Dave

link: http://www.zappos.com/baffin-terrain

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Michigan on 12/23/2011 08:15:22 MST Print View

Hi Dave,

Cheers for the info.

Those boots certainly do look very warm indeed, I will check them out.

Thanks,

Stephen

rOg w
(rOg_w) - F - M

Locale: rogwilmers.wordpress
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Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Scarpa Freney on 12/23/2011 09:19:21 MST Print View

Hi Rog,

I think I will keep the Freneys if they are warm enough for steep stuff back east.
I will definitley get a pair of uber warm flexible boots for putting in the mileage in Michigan.

Cheers,

Andy F
(AndyF) - M
Re: Boots for Michigan and East Coast Winters on 12/23/2011 09:56:02 MST Print View

Here's what I currently use:

http://bushcraftscience.blogspot.com/2010/12/footwear-for-really-cold-weather.html

Camuks by Steger Mukluks are a similar, better-fitting, more durable, but more expensive solution. I'm trying to convince myself I don't need them, but we'll see. :)

None of these are suitable if you need stiff boots for mountaineering.

David Goodyear
(dmgoody) - MLife

Locale: mid-west
steiger on 12/23/2011 10:19:49 MST Print View

Andy,

Good system, cool blog. I would only go the steiger route if you can dry them out by a fire or bring them inside at night. We tried them a few years ago and it was difficult to get the liners out at night to wear in our sleeping bag. They would freeze to the shells. Kind of expensive also.

One of our members, who wasn't satisfied with the commercial options available, took a pair of the rubber overboots and cut off the top and attached a custom breathable nylon upper - two nested felt liners, a neo insole and a frost plug and he was done.

Of course if you use a VBL all of the above is mute, but my feet get funky in a VBL after a couple of days.

Nice to hear other options - especially cost effective ones !!

Dave

Paul Hope
(PaulHope) - F
Re: Boots for Michigan and East Coast Winters on 12/23/2011 18:19:15 MST Print View

Stephen,

Your Freneys will be fine for active winter use, vertical ice and general mountaineering. My suggestion is to carry a pair of chemical toe warmers, put those between you inner and outer sock and that should be plenty.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Thanks folks on 12/24/2011 03:42:12 MST Print View

Hi folks,

Thanks all for the info.

Happy holidays,

Stephen