Yeah, I haven't gotten a Jam 2 yet, although I would really like to =). I think my main reason for wanting the Jam, besides Skurkas influence on me and my gear list, hehe, is because of its amazing durability, that heavyweight fabric, at least as far as I can see might be worth it. Some of the items I chose to leave out or forgot to, i.e socks. Although, I haven't really come up w/ a good first aid kit sort of thing yet. I would love to be able to drop to a lighter sleeping bag, but unless I could score it on sale, I really don't think I can afford it(any more) after trekking poles shelter and on and on. As far as a navigation system, I'm sure closer to the trip my friend and I will have maps printed up, but I am on the fence about bringing my watch. I have a Nike Lance 4 altimer/compass for when I'm on the bike, but I'm not sure if I want something that big on my wrist w/ trekking poles. Thanks for all the responses, and any tips/ideas, or opinions I would greatly appreciate, and try to apply to my backpacking experience. Thanks.