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Clint Hewitt
(WalkSoftly33) - F

Locale: New England
Maybes: Jim Mac, Curtis B. on 01/12/2012 11:40:28 MST Print View

If the maybes could chime in a and let us know one way or the other it would be appreciated.

COMING and ETA's

Jeremy 9-10pm
Steven 10pm
Steven's Roomate +1 10pm
Lupus (on all 4) 10pm
Bryce 1:30pm
Clint 12pm
Ryan 12pm
Matt ?
Seth 1:30pm
Daniel (Seth's Brother) 1:30pm
Adam ?

MAYBE
Steven's +2?
Jim MacDiarmid (ride from NYC or only one night)
Curtis B.


Not Coming
Barry
Roleigh
Douglas Ide
Walter Carrington
Gerry Volpe


Looks like we have 11 confirmed counting Lupus. If I missed anyone or I have anyone's status wrong please let me know. I compiled this list by anyone who showed interest in going. I would like to get a accurate count of who is coming and ETA's so we are not worrying about anyone.

I am pumped up about this trip, the snow gods have spoken, this will be a WINTER WONDERLAND GTG!

Pack More Be Warm :)

Edited by WalkSoftly33 on 01/12/2012 13:41:45 MST.

The Idemonster
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Maybes: Douglas Ide, Jim Mac, Gerry V. Curtis B. Walter C on 01/12/2012 11:54:18 MST Print View

Sorry, didn't realize I was being carried as a maybe. I can't make it.

Doug

Clint Hewitt
(WalkSoftly33) - F

Locale: New England
Re: Re: Maybes: Douglas Ide, Jim Mac, Gerry V. Curtis B. Walter C on 01/12/2012 12:09:16 MST Print View

No worries, I kinda just added anyone that was interested from the beginning onto the list just so we could be sure. There will be another NE GTG.

Thank you for confirming.

Walter Carrington
(Snowleopard) - M

Locale: Mass.
No show. on 01/12/2012 12:38:29 MST Print View

I'm sorry but I can't join you this time.
Have a great time and take lots of pictures.
I think I'll try a shorter, easier winter trip soon.
Prospect Mountain got 3" to 5" of new snow and this seems to be an elevation dependent storm so I'd guess more than that higher up.
Walter

Clint Hewitt
(WalkSoftly33) - F

Locale: New England
Re: No show. on 01/12/2012 12:48:33 MST Print View

Walter,

Thats cool, I understand. Thanks for getting back to me. I hope to see you again at a future GTG.

Yea I am glad there will be some new snow on the mountain, now I get to use my new snowshoes!

Clint

Jeremy Osburn
(earn_my_turns) - M

Locale: New England
eta on 01/12/2012 13:06:12 MST Print View

I should be at the trail head between 9-10. Will there be atleast one stove there for you early arrivals?

Bryce F.
(bster13) - MLife

Locale: Norwalk, CT
Missed a few updates... on 01/12/2012 13:16:19 MST Print View

...whoops.

As for group cooking/melting, I'll only have a .9l pot with me, but my wood stove (Littlbug Jr.) will crank all night provided we gather wood together to feed it. It CRANKS heat. I will have the water bucket thingy with me.

I am game for sunrise hike to the summit...but...I am known to sleep through alarms. I will have my watch with me, but I may sleep through it. Please wake me up.

7:21am Friday (EST) - Sunrise in Glastenbury, VT

@Ryan, my bad, looked at the specs of my watch, it's only good to 14F. haha.

@Seth, see you @ 11 in Canton.

@Everyone... point forcast is down to -11F now. :o Hrmm.. a 16F bag with a 40F bag layers inside for 2.9lbs (with down pants and slippers) or a -25F bag @ 3.7oz. Thoughts?

Bryce F.
(bster13) - MLife

Locale: Norwalk, CT
Any final Gear lists? on 01/12/2012 13:20:53 MST Print View

I'll be packing tonight, but my final gear list is only 95% there.

Clint Hewitt
(WalkSoftly33) - F

Locale: New England
Re: eta on 01/12/2012 13:25:32 MST Print View

Thanks Jeremy

I think Ryan has his whisperlite and I am bringing my canister stove.

Gerry Volpe
(gvolpe) - M

Locale: Vermont
NE get together on 01/12/2012 13:26:00 MST Print View

I will not be able to make it. I just picked up my first adjunct teaching job at a local college last minute and have to have a syllabus and be current on my reading by next thursday. I will make it one of these days. Have fun

Edited by gvolpe on 01/12/2012 13:27:29 MST.

Bryce F.
(bster13) - MLife

Locale: Norwalk, CT
-12F Sat night now... on 01/12/2012 13:26:33 MST Print View

NOAA

Screw it. -25F bag it is. Heck, for all I know it'll be -20F projected for Sat night by the time we get the the trail head. haha.

Clint Hewitt
(WalkSoftly33) - F

Locale: New England
Re: NE get together on 01/12/2012 13:58:32 MST Print View

Thanks Gerry, Congrats on the teaching job.


As an Aside If you need a breather, here is a funny and poignant video I recently saw. Now that you are an adjunct professor maybe you will enjoy the quips this presenter makes about such a profession.

Good Luck

http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html

Jeremy Osburn
(earn_my_turns) - M

Locale: New England
Re: -12F Sat night now... on 01/12/2012 14:40:51 MST Print View

Yeah so much for me saying southern VT will be milder than ADK or whites. If it helps anyone get a little confidence, Sunday night will be even colder with clear skies. The storm added Saturday in the last 12-24 hours so it should snow some almost the entire time we are in the mountains.

Don't forget this is the mountain with the odd disappearances over the years and as my coworker pointed out tomorrow is Friday the 13th. Bring your ghost stories and be prepared to hear me scream like a girl.

Adam Klagsbrun
(klags) - MLife

Locale: Northeast US
Need a warm up first on 01/12/2012 14:47:48 MST Print View

Hey guys so after some careful consideration I think I need a bit of a warm up trip first. I just don't think I'm going to cover the 9-11 mile days well, this would be my first major winter backpacking trip on snowshoe and I rarely hike that far as it is now. I wouldn't say I'm lazy, just that I have limits and I wouldn't want to take forever and not enjoy myself as much. Most of my trips have been 8-9 mile days up and down peaks and I always prefer a nice 5-7 mile day when I can. I may end up doing a day hike in the high peaks this weekend instead to test out my setup, and I was thinking about trying my abused old poorly stored 0 degree bag, which only has about 5" of loft left on it, by camping near my car at a campsite closer to the road in case I'm freezing. But seeing as it is, I'm still a bit behind on gear, and have already spent too much on new boots, pants, and base layers, and my physical ability may be lacking to join you all on a nice long extended snowshoe run. Gotta test myself first! But... please keep me in mind for future winter or summer gatherings, I'd be happy to meet you guys and learn more about going lighter. Have a great weekend!

Adam

Seth Brewer
(Whistler) - MLife

Locale: NW Connecticut
Final report & Gear List on 01/12/2012 14:53:49 MST Print View

@ Clint - Yup Daniel and I are a go ! Have no idea how our bags will work out, but that's why its an easy hike - even if we spend one cold night, oh well.

@ Bryce - see you here in Canton at 11am.

@ Everyone Else -- I've got a pair of MSR EVO Lightning Ascents I'll bring along just in case we need the extra pair. Think the weight max is like 170lbs or something like that.


GEAR LIST:

Winter 3 Day Sub 30 lb Gear List Glastenbury Mtn. VT -5*to 25* Winter Weekend BPL Snowshoe Trip (tested to 5*)

Tent: (28.5oz.)
• Mountain Laurel Designs Silnylon DuoMid (18 oz.)
• Mountain Laurel Designs Superlight Bivy XL (6.5 oz.)
• (6) MSR GroundHog Stakes (.5 oz. / ea)
• Gossamer Gear Polycryo Ground Sheet (1 oz.)
Backpack: (34oz.)
• ULA Circuit (Med)– (34oz.)
Mat: (14 oz.)
• GG Torso Pad (2 oz. thin version)
• Thermarest SOlite Small (9 oz.)
• CFF Sit Pad (1 oz.)
• GG Thinlight Pad (2 oz.)
Sleeping Bag: (49oz.)
• Western Mountaineering Caribou 35* Down Long - 1 lb 9oz. (25 oz.)
• LaFuma Extreme 50* Synthetic (Long) - 1 lb. 8 oz. (24 oz.)
• Instant foot warmers (2 pair)
• Instant Hand warmers (1 pair)
Stove/Cooking Set: (24 oz.)
• Jetboil Flash 1.5 L GCS Cooking Set (21 oz.) w/ pot stand, fuel stand, wind screen, ground foil)
• Walmart Lexan Spork (1 oz.)
• Disposable Coffe Cup w/ Lid (1 oz.)
Light: (3.7 oz.)
• Photo Micro Light (0.9 oz.)
• Petzl Tikka 2 + Headlamp (2.8 oz)
Firestarting / Tools: (2.4 oz.)
• Mini Bic Lighter (1 oz.)
• Leatherman Style CS - (1.4 oz.)
Bathroom: (3oz.)
• Hand Sanitizer (1 oz.)
• Toilet Paper in Ziploc (2 oz.)
Bearproofing: (1.6 oz.)
• ZPacks Cuben Fiber Rock Bag
• BPL Aircore Pro "UrsaLite" Dyneema Bear Bag Cord – (1.3oz/50ft) w/ Nite-Ize #2 Biner
Pack liners / Raincovers: (1.5oz.)
• Trash Compactor Bag (1.5 oz.)
Clothing:
1. Outer Layer: (28 oz.)
• Montbell UL Wind Jacket (4 oz.)
• Montbell UL Wind Pants (3 oz.)
• EMS Thunderhead Rain Jacket (13 oz.)
• Sierra Designs Thunderhead Rain Pants (8 oz.)
2. Underwear: (4.5 oz.)
• Brooks Running Shorts (4.5 oz)
3. Pants/Thermals: (17 oz.)
• Marmot NTS Tights (7 oz.)
• Montbell Thermawrap Pants (8 oz.)
4. Shirts/ Sweaters: (30.5 oz.)
• EMS Techwick Baselayer Midweight LS (7 oz.)
• Montbell Alpine Light Parka (Large) (13 oz.)
• Montbell Thermawrap Jacket (Large) (10.5 oz.)
5. Hats: (8oz.)
• Fleece Watch Cap (3 oz.)
• EMS Bandana (1 oz.)
• Fleece Balaclava (4 oz.)
6. Gloves: (9 oz.)
• (2)Synthetic Fleece Glove Liners (1.5 OZ/ea)
• MLD Rain Shells (1 oz.)
• EMS Altitude Waterproof Gloves (6 oz. estimate)
7. Socks: (12 oz.)
• (2) Injini NuWool Toe Socks (2 oz./ ea)
• Rocky Gore-Tex Socks (sz 14) (5 oz.)
• Acorn Fleece Socks XL (3 oz.)
8. Eyewear: ( 6 oz.)
• Sunglasses (Rx) w/ Hard Case (6 oz.)
• Eyeglasses Retainer Cord
• Lenses Cloth

Emergency / First Aid / Gear Repair (2 oz.) (extra Leukotape for Rocky Socks)

Music / Photo/Ditty Bag: (11.1 oz.)
• Sony DSC-TX10 16.2mp, HD video, iSweep Panoramic photo function - 16gb SD) (7.6 OZ. camera)
• STICKPIC MOUNT (0.5 oz.)
• Phone (3 oz.)
Water Storage / Purification: (13.6 oz.)
• SteriPen Adventurer Opti w/ Streamlight Lithium batteries (3.6 oz.)
• (2) Powerade 1 L Bottles (2 oz.)
• (2) EMS Bottle Coozies (3 oz.)
Food: (10.5 oz.)
• Sea To Summit 20 L Dry Bag (2.5 oz.)
• Mini Flasks (16 oz. Soda Bottle w/ 8 oz. Jameson)
Footwear / Gaiters: (s) = summer (52.3 oz.)
• Salomon XA Pro 3D Trail Running Shoes (43.5 oz. / pair – size 14)
w/ SOLE Dean Karnazes Signature Insoles for Ultra-Marathons – extra support and cushion
• EMS Summit Gaiters XL (9 oz.)
Trekking Poles: (16oz.)
• BD Trail Ergo Cork 145cm Flick Lock, (16 oz./pair)
Snowshoes: (48 oz.)
• MSR Evo Ascent (3 lb / pair)

Total = 429.7 OZ. (26.85 LBS) Base Weight FSO (FROM SKIN OUT)

Total Worn / Carried: (170.5 oz. = 10.65 lbs)
Footwear / Gaiters: (52.5 oz.)
• Salomon XA Pro 3D Trail Running Shoes (43.5 oz. / pair – size 14)
w/ SOLE Dean Karnazes Signature Insoles for Ultra-Marathons – extra support and cushion
• EMS Summit Gaiters XL (9 oz.)
Trekking Poles: (16 oz.)
• BD Trail Ergo Cork 145cm Flick Lock (16 oz. / pair)
Clothing: (47 oz.)
• Marmot NTS Tights (7 oz.)
• EMS Techwick Baselayer Midweight LS (7 oz.)
• Montbell Windshirt (4 oz.)
• Injinji Toe Socks (2 oz.)
• Rocky Gore-Tex Socks (sz 14) (5 oz.)
• EMS Thunderhead Jacket (13 oz.)
• Sierrea Designs Thunderhead Pants (8 oz.)
• Brooks Running Shorts (4.5 oz)
• Fleece Hat (2 oz.)
• Synthetic Liner Gloves (1.5 oz.)
Snowshoes: (48 oz.)
• MSR Evo Ascent (3 lb / pair estimate)



*Overall Base Pack Weight Carried = 16.2 lbs


• FOOD: 72 hrs = 5 lbs @ 2 lbs per day (80 oz.)
• FUEL: (200g canister) = 9 oz.
• WATER: 1 L = 2.2 lbs Carried at a time (35 oz.)
-→ Total Consumables = 7.76 lbs (124 oz.)


TOTAL PACK WEIGHT FOR 3 Day TRIP = 23.9 LBS (SUB 30 LBS GOAL FOR 3 DAYS FOOD/H20)

Bryce F.
(bster13) - MLife

Locale: Norwalk, CT
Lithium Batteries on 01/12/2012 15:06:40 MST Print View

Just putting this out there for everyone...

http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/l91.pdf

Notice the battery performance of the Alkaline battery vs. the Lithium in the cold. Don't want to be hiking by headlamp on one of these long night with no juice! :o

Ryan Linn
(ryan.c.linn)

Locale: Maine!
Re: Ghost stories on 01/12/2012 15:21:29 MST Print View

"Bring your ghost stories and be prepared to hear me scream like a girl."

No pants-peeing in winter. Makes things really cold!

I've got a 4-qt and 2-qt pot that I'll bring, and my stove will be boiling lots of water morning and night.

Just finished packing most of my gear, and now I'm getting my food all squared away. This is going to be a trial by fire for sure (or by ice). I wish I'd had time to get really chilly on a few dayhikes this season, but if this is how I have to get into this season, it'll be perfect.

Seth, I'm lending my Lightning Ascents to you, right? I will meet you in the parking lot, then.

Seth Brewer
(Whistler) - MLife

Locale: NW Connecticut
Correct Ryan ! on 01/12/2012 15:37:36 MST Print View

That's a yes sir on the Lightning ascents Ryan ! Thanks and I'd anticipate us arriving with Bryce at the Trail head somewhere around 1:30pm (assuming 2 1/2 hrs to get there....who knows if the weather is bad).

Clint Hewitt
(WalkSoftly33) - F

Locale: New England
Re: Final report & Gear List on 01/12/2012 16:08:09 MST Print View

Seth I have two synthetic sleeping bags you can borrow to layer under one is a 35* (2.6lbs i think) the other 45* (1lb 10oz)

I am layering two down bags 25* bag with a 30*

also I have a 7lb -15* synth bag you could hump in that would keep you real toasty, you could even open it up and both sleep under it and do the brotherly cuddle

You are more then welcome to them. I can throw them in my car just in case.

Bryce F.
(bster13) - MLife

Locale: Norwalk, CT
I have the following bags to borrow on 01/12/2012 16:54:29 MST Print View

1 x Marmut Helium 16F 850 fill power bag. 910g
1 x Marmut Atom 40F 850 fill power bag. 610g

You'll have to supply your own stuff sacks though. Let me know if I should pack them in the car.