"ideal" size for a solo flat tarp?
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David Goodyear
(dmgoody) - MLife

Locale: mid-west
guy points on 11/23/2011 09:14:18 MST Print View

To get the most versatility, I've added 4 mid-panel guy-outs on a 10 x 10. This way you can pitch the flying diamond with a beak, by using the mid-panel on the diagonal. Of, course, this being an ultralight site, you could probably get away with two and just mark them by using a different colored line( for fast setup )

Enjoy,

Dave

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
Guy Points on 11/23/2011 09:29:36 MST Print View

I like lots of guy points. It multiplies your pitch options, but does add weight.
The Oware tarps seem to have good amount of guy points, but some have ordered with an additional center guy point for even more flexibility,

George Geist
(geist) - M

Locale: Smoky Mountains
Re: square vs rectangle on 11/24/2011 18:40:57 MST Print View

> I'd love to see more commentary on square vs. rectangular tarps
> & the pitches a square unit offers.

Hi James,

I went with a square 9'x9' cuben tarp for its many pitching options.
Most of the time I use the open and airy pitches already mentioned.
When weather really gets CRAZY the square tarp can be set up quickly
into a fully enclosed 9' tetrahedron with a 45" height.
1. Peg two corners of one side
2. Form 9'x9'x9' triangle by bringing two free corners
together and pegging with single stake
3. Fold the loose material over one side and peg at the
mid-point tie-out.
4. Crawl under with pole and raise the center and
ride out the storm.
Here is a picture:

9'x9' tarp pitched as tetrahedron

Al

Hamish McHamish
(El_Canyon) - M

Locale: USA
9x9 on 11/24/2011 23:18:58 MST Print View

George, who made your tarp? What type of cuben was used? What's the overall weight without guylines?

George Geist
(geist) - M

Locale: Smoky Mountains
Re: 9x9 tarp on 11/25/2011 16:10:58 MST Print View

> George, who made your tarp? What type of cuben was used?
> What's the overall weight without guylines?

Hi James,

I bought my 9'x9' flat tarp from Lawson Klein.
It is all glued and taped. No sewn seams or hem.

It is made of reflective cuben. Looks (and works)like a space blanket on one side and is green on the other (sort of an iridescent green). It is 0.75oz/sq yd cuben but with the reflective coating this cuben actually weighs 0.80 oz/sq yd.

Total weight of the 9x9 with linelocks and the spectra guylines is 9.0 oz.

Here it is in a traditional A frame pitch.

Reflective cuben 9x9 tarp

Hamish McHamish
(El_Canyon) - M

Locale: USA
_ on 11/28/2011 12:46:41 MST Print View

Wow that looks great George. Do you have contact info for Lawson? I didn't find anything via Google.

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
Lawson on 11/28/2011 13:02:35 MST Print View

lawsonequipment.com

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Clelland's "bombshelter" on 11/28/2011 19:03:47 MST Print View

@James>

I like Clelland's bomb shelter setup for rain and cooking under the front "vestibule". But it means a 10'X10' tarp to get that configuration.

If'n I HAD to use a tarp it would be a 10'X10' Cuben tarp with all the tie-outs Clelland shows... and a bug net W/floor enclosure inside.

But I'll stay with my TT Moment for now. I'm old and usually too weary at the end of a long day to mess with tarping. Besides, if the wind shifts all I have to do is pull one end stake, pivot the Moment around and re-stake.

Hamish McHamish
(El_Canyon) - M

Locale: USA
Lawson on 11/30/2011 08:32:47 MST Print View

I sent an inquiry to Lawson Equipment but got no reply. Maybe they're offline for a while.

Edited by El_Canyon on 11/30/2011 08:33:28 MST.

George Geist
(geist) - M

Locale: Smoky Mountains
Re: Lawson Kline on 11/30/2011 16:15:52 MST Print View

Hi James,

Lawson may just be enjoying the outdoors for a few days.
He has been responsive to this email: Lawson@mountainfitter.com

While you wait for a response, you may want to read some
Lawson's posts here on the backpackinglight forums.
He has posted a lot of interesting tests with bonding cuben
and making hammocks and tarps.

Al

Hamish McHamish
(El_Canyon) - M

Locale: USA
Lawson gear on 12/05/2011 08:31:23 MST Print View

I read in the forums somewhere that Lawson stopped selling tarps.

Rakesh Malik
(Tamerlin)

Locale: Cascadia
Re: Lawson gear on 12/11/2011 08:00:23 MST Print View

> I read in the forums somewhere that Lawson stopped selling tarps.

I've been wondering about that, since his site doesn't have them listed any more. So far, all of the feedback I've seen of his tarps has been positive, so I wonder what happened.