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Brett .
(Brett1234) - F

Locale: CA
TrailDesigns out of business!? on 12/26/2006 21:08:14 MST Print View

I tried to email Trail Designs to buy a Caldera Cone stove, but the email bounced. Are they out of business?

"I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

: does not like recipient.

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
TrailDesigns out of business!? on 12/27/2006 10:10:30 MST Print View

Contact George (Tin Man) at AntiGravityGear. I believe he has a working relation with them and could probably shine a light onto your inquiry.

Adam Rothermich
(aroth87) - F

Locale: Missouri Ozarks
Re: TrailDesigns out of business!? on 12/27/2006 10:38:21 MST Print View

I'm fairly certain that Anti-Gravity Gear sells the Caldera Cones. They've also started producing a couple of the tarps of Brawny's design (formerly sold on


Brett .
(Brett1234) - F

Locale: CA
Caldera Cones on 12/27/2006 19:11:21 MST Print View

Thank you both, found the Caldera Cones at AGG. TrailDesigns evidently had some fitted for the SnowPeak cups, which I was hoping for. But oh well, maybe I can make my own out of aluminum sheeting.

Adam Rothermich
(aroth87) - F

Locale: Missouri Ozarks
Re: Caldera Cones on 12/27/2006 21:35:26 MST Print View

You might even be able to send Tin Man an email and ask him if he can do it for you. I know he will do i t for cozys so it may be worth a shot asking him.


John Adams
(scsjohn) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
not out of business on 01/01/2007 16:46:14 MST Print View


Just ordered a caldera for snow peak 700 and they (he) was very helpful.

Hope that works!

Rand Lindsly
(randlindsly) - MLife

Locale: Yosemite
Not out of business!!! on 03/06/2007 13:05:21 MST Print View

Woah!!! We're FAR from out of business! In fact up to our ears in orders that we're working hard to fill. Sorry for not responding to this thread earlier.....I try to track the G-Spot forum.....and look for where hits come from on our site.....but this fell through my highly tuned sensor net because it didn't match either of my cleverly selected criteria. :-)

Not sure why your mail mentioned here.... has been working pretty reliably. Sometimes folks forget the "s" and try Let me know if you are still having problems.

For general information, the email reference on our web site is just a pictorial/graphic of the spelling of the email address. This prevents web crawlers/spiders/robots/etc from harvesting our email addresses. The issue with this is that you have to retype the address when you send it....and on ocassion we bump into transcription errors in that process. I apologize again for any issues...and please let me know if you encounter consistent problems.

Rand :-)

Brett .
(Brett1234) - F

Locale: CA
Rand, saw T.D. in Tokyo! on 03/06/2007 22:49:45 MST Print View

You are probabably aware your products are sold in Japan, but I was surpsired to see your products in a store called 'OD Box' here in Tokyo, near Ueno station. I didn't imagine your company was known much outside the US. They have a good selection of cottage industry outdoor goods, primarily from America; including your windscreens and other products, and even, up by the cash register, behind a plexiglass case, a vertically mounted and suitably annotated.. BPL titanium spoon! ooooh.

If you would like me to promote your items further to the OD Box staff, or the big retailers (Victoria, Montbell, ICI, etc..) let me know. Maybe they would send you a large order. I especially think the caldera stoves would be a big hit here in Japan, because the Snowpeak 600s, 700s, and 900s which are a good size for calderas are very popular and common here; and "eco" products (like maybe alcohol stoves) are HUGE right now.

Edited by Brett1234 on 03/06/2007 22:52:30 MST.

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: Rand, saw T.D. in Tokyo! on 03/07/2007 09:14:50 MST Print View

Brett, the people at OD Box in Okachimachi actually follow the threads here, I think. They always seem to be up on all the latest UL gear, so they must be following something like that on the American sites. I was there last week and bought a Jacks R Better Weather Shield. I've spoken to the guy in charge of the ultralight gear section up on the fourth floor, he really knows his stuff and is nuts about building his own alchohol stoves. He was excited to tell me about the new Finetrack featherweight softshells, that feel somewhat like the Forgg Togg material, but are made of nylon. Shower climbers use them as featherweight waterproof jackets that act as windshells.

Down in the shoe and pack sections the guys seem to know less about what is going on, though.

UL is a hard sell in Japan because people don't like to change methods easily. Just look at the tents here... all two pole domes, even MontBell doesn't go too far out on a limb with its tents. But if it can be done with flair and well-made design UL just might be sold.