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Ozzy McKinney
(PorcupinePhobia) - F

Locale: PNW
Stoic Hadron? on 10/06/2011 07:53:22 MDT Print View

Anyone pulled the trigger on stoics new down jacket, the hadron? at a claimed 8oz for the hoody (7 for the jacket) it looks like a contender. I have a couple of stoic pieces that I like, but I would like to know how much of that 8oz is fabric/down.

http://www.backcountry.com/stoic-hadron-down-cardigan-mens

ps- its not THAT ugly... :P

Tim Haynes
(timalan)

Locale: Mid Atlantic
Stoic Hadron on 10/06/2011 08:29:11 MDT Print View

I've been looking at the same think; was on SAC yesterday sometime for less than $100, which made it a pretty good deal. I've got a 7-oz Montbell with 2-oz of down in it that works very well, so I'm not in the market right now, but it's still tempting to try it out -- I like the anorak style.

Women's colors are better -- I had considered getting the gray anorak for her that Stoic just released, but she's already got a Stoic Down Sweater, which fits her very well, though it's heavier, at just under 11oz.

If anyone bites on the Hadron, I'd love to hear impressions. If it's like all the other Stoic/BC stuff, sometime in the next year these will be available for 50%+ off, which could make them a killer deal.

Brendan Swihart
(brendans) - MLife

Locale: Fruita CO
Re: Stoic Hadron? on 10/06/2011 08:29:23 MDT Print View

the anorak has been on steep and cheap recently for $99 IIRC. Stuff usually reappears on there so keep yr eyes peeled.

edit: Tim beat me to the punch...

Edited by brendans on 10/06/2011 08:30:04 MDT.

William Zila
(Ultralightwillinn.m) - MLife

Locale: Albuquerque
Too bad on 10/06/2011 10:19:31 MDT Print View

The colors are so darn ugly why couldn't they just make black or grey?


EDIT got one in excaliber/vintage and its pretty slick looking

Edited by Ultralightwillinn.m on 11/05/2011 23:55:24 MDT.

Eli .
(Feileung) - F
Quilting. on 10/06/2011 10:25:28 MDT Print View

"ps- its not THAT ugly... :P"

Yes it is;)

Its the quilting pattern that drives me nuts. What's the point of those two narrow bands below the sternum?

Richard Fischel
(RICKO) - F
i have an issue with the name on 10/06/2011 10:34:59 MDT Print View

i sometimes have a problem with rearranging letters in a word. when i first read the name fast i was a bit schocked to say the least.

John Harper
(johnnyh88) - M

Locale: The SouthWest
Re: Ugly on 10/06/2011 10:38:24 MDT Print View

I saw this on Steep and Cheap yesterday for $94. If I was in the market for a jacket, I think I could look ugly in the woods for that price. 7oz for a large, pockets for my hands, no useless zipper? Sounds good to me. I have some Stoic underwear and their Wrath windshirt - both are great quality.

Also, some one already posted a question on Backcountry.com about the fill weight of the jacket so maybe that will get answered soon. I don't think it's THAT ugly, but maybe Stoic is doing a social experiment to see what colors people will put up with for a lightweight down jacket that can be had for cheap? At the very least, they definitely should have just made a black or gray option though...

Kevin Hall
(ClassicMagger) - F
I bought one on SAC... on 10/06/2011 12:08:14 MDT Print View

Hey:

I got the ugly Purple whatever "Vintage" yesterday on SAC. I choose to combine the shipping so I'll let everyone know how it works out. I have the UL Down Inner Montbell Jacket, but thought this one might be a little warmer with more down. I'll let you know.

-Kevin

Tim Haynes
(timalan)

Locale: Mid Atlantic
Stoic Hadron on 10/06/2011 13:26:57 MDT Print View

My theory is they must have gotten a great deal somewhere on fabric colors no one else wanted. Same with zippers and trim. On the upside (for them), in my experience, the ultralight crowd that it looks like these were designed for is not known for having much fashion sense ... or rather, they are known for ignoring fashion: function, always, over form, for most ultralighters.

Eric Botshon
(Ebotshon) - F
Fill Weights on 10/10/2011 21:04:57 MDT Print View

I emailed backcountry.com a few weeks ago when the pieces came out and got this response:

• Hadron Down Anorak – Men’s – 2.3oz
• Hadron Down Cardigan – Men’s – 2.0oz
• Hadron Down Vest – Men’s – 1.7oz
• Hadron Down Anorak – Women’s – 2.1oz

Kris Bunker
(boomer754) - F

Locale: Michigan
Grey is now an option on 10/12/2011 11:11:22 MDT Print View

The Anorak is currently on SAC for $99.99 with a grey color option. I just bit the bullet. This will cut the weight of my current insulating layer in half. Nice.

Dave Marcus
(Djrez4) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
New review as well. on 10/12/2011 11:20:30 MDT Print View

And one that actually reviews the jacket instead of the pictures...

"Just got this baby out of the box, so these impressions are from walking around the house.

First off props to the bag it came in: made completely out of corn. It was tasty, after I added salt and butter.

The jacket is very light, as you might have guessed from the specs. When I first put it on I freaked a bit when I saw so much light through the fabric. But after fluffing it up and redistributing the down a touch it looked much better. The color, which my sister laughed at when I showed her the jacket online, looks fine in person and got my sister's stamp of approval. She even tried to steal it from me. Thankfully she weighs about 100lbs and my medium fit her like a burlap sack.

Which brings me to fit. I'm 6'0" and about 152. Jacket fits great. A little baggy around the chest with just a shirt underneath, but the wrist and waist seals keep the warm air in. With the hood on and the buttons buttoned (which makes a great seal as well) I could immediately feel the heat starting to build up. Taking 2 selfies in the mirror was about all I could handle in the 72 degree weather over here.

The hand pocket is nice. Full insulation on the part of the jacket that's under the pocket, and the pocket itself is lightly insulated. I packed the jacket in there, and it is indeed a serviceable camp pillow. Haven't tried but pretty sure you could get the whole jacket inside a Nalgene.

Great first impression, super happy I picked it up from SaC."

Konrad .
(Konrad1013) - MLife
I will do a mini review when it arrives on 10/12/2011 11:25:28 MDT Print View

I just ordered one, and plan on comparing it to a Montbell UL inner Parka, which I believe is it's closest competition. The Hardron looks promising though. Comparable down fill by weight, but higher quality down, and lighter overall. Now, whether or not the color is actually bearable...I'll only know upon unboxing

Edited by Konrad1013 on 10/12/2011 11:30:59 MDT.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: I will do a mini review when it arrives on 10/12/2011 11:51:51 MDT Print View

I ordered one as well in the gray. I wanted something sub 10 oz with a hood to complement my Rab Infinity Endurance. I initially ordered a small, since I'm a small in everything, but then noticed their weird sizing chart and ordered a medium as well. I cancelled the small so I hope the medium fits like their chart indicates.

Konrad .
(Konrad1013) - MLife
ah crap on 10/12/2011 12:04:41 MDT Print View

Chris, I didn't even check the size chart, because like you, I'm always a small.

Sizing looks bizarre according to their chart...everything looks like it's downsized by 1 size. I won't be getting mine for a while since I choose to hold off shipping for a week (using their combined shipping option). Please update us on fit. Thanks

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: ah crap on 10/12/2011 19:48:10 MDT Print View

Will do. I expect it'll show up around Saturday. I have a sneaky feeling I'll be sending it back for a small though.

Edited by simplespirit on 10/12/2011 20:05:54 MDT.

Vince Contreras
(pillowthread) - F

Locale: like, in my head???
It was just up... on 10/12/2011 21:59:37 MDT Print View

...on SAC for about 20 minutes, from 9:35 to 9:54pm mountain time. It ended about four minutes early, even though they are far from selling out...perhaps they sold a bunch in that short time and pulled it early to build more desire/get more people to buy it from Backcountry?

Anyways, I sniped one in the Grey outer/Purple inner color combination, size medium. I too am interested to see how the sizing works out, as the chart did seem to be shifted a bit from the normal ranges...

Matt Allen
(zeroforhire) - MLife
just got it... on 10/14/2011 17:11:12 MDT Print View

I have to say... I am pleasantly surprised.

Got the green hoody in medium, and the color is not as ugly as it looks. It is actually a little darker than it shows online.

It has a real nice hand to it... (pertex quantum)

Medium weighs in at 7.4 oz for me.

The hood fits great once all the buttons are done up. That is good, because it doesn't have any toggles to adjust it.

Konrad .
(Konrad1013) - MLife
sizing on 10/14/2011 21:26:06 MDT Print View

Matt, did the medium fit true to size or smaller? Thanks

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: Stoic Hadron Sizing on 10/17/2011 13:54:21 MDT Print View

Mine came today. I'm 5'8 and 135 lbs and wound up getting the medium after checking the sizing chart. IMO, the medium fits me ok. If I flatten it against my torso, I probably have 2 or more inches on either side and the upper arms are way oversized. When I do have it on though, it doesn't appear overly baggy in the torso. I'm not sure how a small would fit and the medium leaves room for some layering underneath so I'll probably keep it. Hard to beat for the price. My digital scale puts it at 7.4 oz.

Me in Medium Hadron hoody



Me in Small Rab Infinity Edurance


More Hadron hoody photos

Edited by simplespirit on 10/17/2011 16:07:44 MDT.