caffeine tablets in place of tea or coffee?
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Rafi Harzahav
(rhz10) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
caffeine tablets in place of tea or coffee? on 09/08/2011 01:13:27 MDT Print View

OK,

I need my morning caffeine fix. Alas, tea/coffee require fuel for boiling water. Does anyone use no-doz or the equivalent instead of tea/coffee to save on weight?

rhz

David Drake
(DavidDrake) - F - M

Locale: North Idaho
Re: caffeine tablets in place of tea or coffee? on 09/08/2011 01:28:04 MDT Print View

For me, the ritual of a hot drink in the morning is far more satisfying than the amount of caffeine it provides, or the ounce or so of fuel I might save by going without. Doesn't have to be before breaking camp though--a cup of coffee at the first rest spot for the day works well too.

Frankly, popping pills instead just seems a little too...clinical.

Thomas Burns
(nerdboy52) - MLife

Locale: "Alas, poor Yogi.I knew him well."
Coffee packets on 09/08/2011 02:53:14 MDT Print View

Almost as effective and nearly as lightweight are those single-serving instant-coffee packets like Starbucks Via. Most coffee manufacturers make them now. Drop one into a gatorade bottle half filled with unheated water and shake vigorously and you have the moral equivalent to a cup of coffee with no heating required I add powdered milk sometimes as a sweetener.

Along the trail, I also eat the coffee powder right out of the packet with a swig of water. It's just like taking the caffeine tabs but with the coffee flavor condensed into a quick burst of flavorosity. It's good for a quick caffeine fix, anyway, even if seems a bit hardcore to your hiking companions. ;-)

Stargazer

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: caffeine tablets in place of tea or coffee? on 09/08/2011 06:17:59 MDT Print View

You are out there to enjoy yourself. Have a cup. Or two...

adam spates
(adamspates) - F

Locale: southeast
just a question on 09/08/2011 07:33:10 MDT Print View

Isn't caffeine a nono because of dehydration?

Thomas Burns
(nerdboy52) - MLife

Locale: "Alas, poor Yogi.I knew him well."
Caffeine on 09/08/2011 07:38:20 MDT Print View

A myth, as far as my experience is concerned, but as always, YMMV.

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Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
caffeine tablets in place of tea or coffee? on 09/08/2011 08:02:04 MDT Print View

I have done it, and it will make that headache go away, if you're a bit addicted like me.

Worth the fuel for something hot to me though.

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: caffeine tablets in place of tea or coffee? on 09/08/2011 08:39:12 MDT Print View

If you can handle the gut rot those pills produce in some peoples stomachs.....

I much prefer a cup of tea, a latte or similar. A hot drink in the morning is simply civilized ;-)

Paul Magnanti
(PaulMags) - MLife

Locale: People's Republic of Boulder
caffeiene addiction on 09/08/2011 09:13:33 MDT Print View

Hi. My name is Paul. I, too, am a coffee addict.

On long trips solo, I do cold food. So what to do?

As others mentioned, I take Starbucks Via. Makes cold instant coffee for the caffeine addict! :)

Costco sells Via in large quantities to my habit won't break the bank as badly. ;)

Rick Dreher
(halfturbo) - MLife

Locale: Northernish California
Re: caffeiene addiction on 09/08/2011 11:15:31 MDT Print View

I won't claim Via has changed my life, but it's made it a lot simpler and more enjoyable. Viva Via! (Gawd, I sound like a shill.)

Anyhoo, if cold coffee isn't your thing I'll recommend munching some chocolate coated roast beans. It'll give you something to pick out of your teeth on the trail and if you eat enough, believe me, you'll get your caffeine fix.

Cheers,

Rick

p.s. My yardstick for a dirtbag breakfast is a crushed nodoz sprinkled on a poptart.

Paul Magnanti
(PaulMags) - MLife

Locale: People's Republic of Boulder
Dirtbirt breakfast of champions on 09/08/2011 12:29:45 MDT Print View

>>p.s. My yardstick for a dirtbag breakfast is a crushed nodoz sprinkled on a poptart.


That sounds so wrong....yet so right!!! :D

Thomas Burns
(nerdboy52) - MLife

Locale: "Alas, poor Yogi.I knew him well."
Breakfast and lunch of champions on 09/08/2011 12:33:20 MDT Print View

I eat the uncoated coffee beans. Put six or seven of them in your mouth, crunch them down a bit, put them between your upper teeth and gums, and them slowly chew a few fragments over the course of twenty minutes or so. Oh, yeah . . . .

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Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Breakfast and lunch of champions on 09/08/2011 12:51:14 MDT Print View

On Wednesday morning, I was camped not far from the JMT. My breakfast consisted of one packet of GU (with caffeine), one 1.5 oz packet of peanut butter, one stick of string cheese, and one strip of fruit leather. A few minutes later, I was speeding up the trail.

--B.G.--

Rodney OndaRock
(RodneyOndaRock) - F

Locale: Southern California
Re: caffeine tablets in place of tea or coffee? on 09/08/2011 12:54:05 MDT Print View

how about those gourmet chocolate covered expresso coffee beans.

I hate drinking coffee, but the choc coffee beans give me the caffeine I need.

advantage:
1. lightweight, no need to carry a jetboil to make coffee
2. time saving due to forgoing setting up a kitchen

downside:
1. you are tempted to eat choc coffee beans before bed time and are up all night.
2. you dont pack them in the right place and they melt.
3. choc covered coffee beans are not a hot food, if you need one.

I also keep an emergency can of red bull on multi-day trips. In case I hit the proverbial WALL, and need the placebo to trick myself to keep on going. Although in the recent past years, my estimates, pace timing and nutrition planning has gotten better, so I don't end up in a "wall" situation, but it still works to get my nephew and other hiking buddies on the move.

I brew green tea at home before a trip, and fill my camelbak. Green tea has less caffeine, so FOR ME, its a slow constant release of caffeine, instead of the spike and crash of alternatives.

Although in my teens and 20s I used to put away 3 liters of Coca Cola per day, just to barely function in school. Those were the bad 'good' ole days when I didn't understand how my body metabolized sugar.

Edited by RodneyOndaRock on 09/08/2011 14:09:37 MDT.

Rafi Harzahav
(rhz10) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
Thanks everyone-- on 09/08/2011 17:23:57 MDT Print View

I'll try the Starbucks Via things. I didn't know that they work with cold water.

thanks again.

rhz

Tim Zen
(asdzxc57) - F

Locale: MI
Re: caffeine tablets in place of tea or coffee? on 09/08/2011 17:25:37 MDT Print View

No-doz. Reminds me of the worst part of college. Coffee is a necessity.
Make it 11 on the 10 things to bring on a hike.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: caffeine tablets in place of tea or coffee? on 09/08/2011 17:34:31 MDT Print View

"I need my morning caffeine fix. Alas, tea/coffee require fuel for boiling water. Does anyone use no-doz or the equivalent instead of tea/coffee to save on weight?"

I've used No Doze on a few longer trips to save the weight, but I've got to tell you it sure leaves a hole in my morning routine. On shorter trips I will put up with the extra weight to enjoy a hot aromatic cup and, if going solo on longer trips, I now take Starbucks Via and pour it into a 12 oz widemouth Nalgene bottle of water I take to bed with me. By morning the water is body temp and makes a drinkable, if not exactly gourmet, cup of coffee. I justify the 2.6 oz weight of the bottle by telling myself it is multi purpose gear, since I use it for my morning granola and during the day for Perpetuem.

Justin Reigle
(jreigle) - F - M

Locale: SF Bay area
Via or... on 09/08/2011 17:42:01 MDT Print View

Via is decent, albeit a bit pricey (I can't use just one). Not sure if others have tried this, but I found Medaglia D'Oro Instant Espresso at my local grocery store. It was about 3 bucks for a quantity that will last many trips and the flavor is decent and strong! Works hot or cold.

I've tried the tablets before and they do not sit very well in my stomach. It's hard for me to justify NOT having something warm in the morning.

Another option I've seen recently... Clif bars that are spiked with caffeine. Breakfast and a jolt.

Edited by jreigle on 09/08/2011 17:45:50 MDT.

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - M

Locale: Cascadia
Coffee on 09/08/2011 23:58:32 MDT Print View

Coffee is a tough one....I'm a fairly heavy addict in my regular life, mostly because I'm a computer addict and I can't sit at the computer without a coffee. If I go backpacking without caffeine I do get headaches which is not fun...so it's a situation that needs to be managed.

One option is to ween off coffee a bit before a hiking trip. This isn't really feasible for short trips, but if you got a 7-10 day epic coming up then easing back on the java for those final 2-3 days can make a big difference in your caffeine addiction. I find for me that 48-72 hours of cold turkey is all it takes to get past the headaches, so I can do this preemptively before a long hike if I need to. I usually don't.

A better solution I use is to start mixing in caffeine free tea instead of abstaining. A few days before a hike switch to 1/3 tea and 2/3 coffee, then for the final two days do 2/3 tea and 1/3 coffee and then when the hike comes you can pretty much go coffee-less without the withdrawl symptoms.....although 1 cup per day sure is nice. Tea kinda sucks, but it's better than nothing and some teas are kinda good.

When i hike, I normally use Via. You just need to be careful not to add more than 1 cup (250ml) of water or it's too weak and you'll need 2 packets. Ideally you want about 2/3 cup water for a decently stiff brew. I normally have one of these with breakfast. The only thing I don't like is the price.....it really adds up if you hike a lot. Via is good for instant coffee, but not as good as regular coffee which is nice because I don't wind up tempted to have 3-4 cups per day.

Edited by dandydan on 09/09/2011 00:09:13 MDT.

Makais Aloha
(makais) - F

Locale: Southern California
Starbucks VIA on 09/09/2011 11:17:33 MDT Print View

I'm new to the forum...it's funny I was going to start a coffee thread but there is already one!

Last time I went backpacking I went with no coffee and I was not a happy camper. I drink coffee daily, so my body did not like the abrupt change to no coffee. I'm heading out tomorrow, and this time I'll be bringing Starbucks VIA with me. I love some milk with my coffee, so I usually bring a tiny bit of powdered milk too. The powdered milk also goes nicely with my morning granola.