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tom haegler
(tomhaegler) - F
MSR Whisperlite gas cartridge modification? on 08/29/2011 08:49:28 MDT Print View

Has anyone converted their MSR Whisperlite so that you can use it with MSR/Primus etc. cartridges? I love the Whisperlite but sometimes I'd appreciate if I could use cartridges (easier handling etc.). Basically you could just buy the hose from a Rapidfire (if available) and put this into the Whisperlite...then you have a cartridge stove. Am I right?

cheers
tom

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: MSR Whisperlite gas cartridge modification? on 08/29/2011 09:32:54 MDT Print View

Just a wild assumption here, but believe the jetting is different between liquid fuels and gaseous fuels.

You might have quite a blowtorch going straight to isobutane.
Please post a video of your first test.

Edited by greg23 on 08/29/2011 09:33:26 MDT.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: MSR Whisperlite gas cartridge modification? on 08/29/2011 15:02:39 MDT Print View

Yes, modified stove test videos are always lots of fun to watch.

--B.G.--

Jan Rezac
(zkoumal) - MLife

Locale: Prague, CZ
Re: MSR Whisperlite gas cartridge modification? on 08/29/2011 15:41:09 MDT Print View

The jet should work with gas, I have Primus Omnifuel stove and it uses the same jet for gas and white gas and there is a replacement jet for kerosene (and maybe diesel, if I remember)

Rick Dreher
(halfturbo) - MLife

Locale: Northernish California
Re:MSR Whisperlite gas cartridge modification? on 08/29/2011 16:07:50 MDT Print View

Uh, conceptually it shouldn't differ much from the Primus and Coleman equivalents but swapping in the hose sounds pretty kludgy. The jet should work as is.

But I'm among those who think there's a easier path than pressing a Whisperlite into compressed gas service. The forthcoming Windpro II springs to mind.

Cheers,

Rick

tom haegler
(tomhaegler) - F
msr reply on 08/29/2011 16:24:28 MDT Print View

Yeah - or the new Whisperlite which burns all fuels. That's what MSR's got to say:

Tom. You heard right, in 2012 we are introducing the WhisperLite Universal hybrid-fuel stove. However, the canister fuel adaptor for the new WhisperLite Universal will not be compatible with old WhisperLite stoves. In order to make the WhisperLite Universal adaptors user-swappable, the stove design was modified to add a permanently-mounted, threaded connection and sealing features to the fuel line. Because this connection interface between the fuel line and the adaptor doesn’t exist on the previous models, the adaptor cannot be connected to older fuel lines. The burner design on the new WhisperLite Universal is also a little different to improve how well the stove performs on both fuels.

I agree. Buying a new stove would be the easiest way. But why always buy new stuff when the old one's still working (and could actually work with a small upgrade). It seems companies don't want to make their stuff upgradable (less sales, less money) and I think thats a poor mindset...

Rick Dreher
(halfturbo) - MLife

Locale: Northernish California
Re: msr reply on 08/29/2011 16:36:07 MDT Print View

I think in the case of products that emit flame, an upgrade scheme for user implementation sounds like a path straight to the courtroom. I'm willing to bet MSR stoves hold a good deal of their value used, so there's always that option for the restless.

Gear does improve with time--The Markets (pbut) "demand it." But a stove that boils water will continue to boil water even after its cuter cousin appears on the scene. The only true death knell is when its fuel disappears.

Cheers,

Rick

tom haegler
(tomhaegler) - F
msr reply on 08/29/2011 16:38:39 MDT Print View

True...

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: MSR Whisperlite gas cartridge modification? on 09/03/2011 22:11:35 MDT Print View

Speaking of a Whisperlite running on canister gas, I just shot a video of the new Whisperlite Universal running on canister gas.

HJ

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
MSR Whisperlite Universal -- Photos and Videos on 09/03/2011 22:38:09 MDT Print View

I've posted some detailed MSR Whisperlite Universal photos and videos on my blog if you're interested.

HJ