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Casey Balza
(equals) - F
How to be SUL??? on 08/21/2011 20:43:01 MDT Print View

How do you guys get to SUL? Do you end up just buying really expensive light equipment or do you just end up cutting something out of your gear list all together? What sort of things would you consider essential to your list that you can't go without? What would be a list of items needed to survive a multi day trip or even better a thru hike going SUL?

Ryan Slack
(RWSlack) - F

Locale: Minnesota
IME on 08/21/2011 21:16:02 MDT Print View

In midwest summer conditions and short trips, easy and inexpensive:
If at low altitude/balmy locale, nix sleeping bag.
If out of bug season, nix bug shelter/repellent.
If forecast favorable, nix shelter/rain gear.
In many cases, nix cook kit.
If plenty of water on route, nix treatment and carrying capacity.

Price for weight loss generally goes up as challenges increase and one cannot afford to skimp on certain "essentials." It is quite simple to go SUL on a midwest summer overnight with a just a pad, bivy, pack, dinner, breakfast, and water and clothing worn plus sundries. Elevation, seasons, length of trip, bear regulations, and other considerations increase the cost of SUL substantially, as to "afford" proper rain gear or shelter one might have to switch to cuben, or to cope with colder conditions one must bring more insulation. With my current gear and budget I could not hope to be happy (survivable vs. happy, note difference) on a weeklong SUL trip at 10K' with lows in the 20s (F); I would need to upgrade several major gear pieces to lighter and more expensive options.

I'll let the mountain folks, and those who have put more expensive gear and fabrics into the equation, speak from here.

Robert Cowman
(rcowman) - F

Locale: Canadian Rockies
Re: How to be SUL??? on 08/21/2011 23:07:03 MDT Print View

SUL= mulipule use items and reducing the amount of items you have. If i'm not expecting rain or crazy thunderstorms no shell or shell pants, i just take a good dwr'd windshirt. lightest smallest tarp is under $175 and under 4oz. a zub 9oz 20liter pack is good. using your skills to select a warmer campsite is free for weight on the scale.

and i live in the northern rockies were sub 30F is possible everyday of the summer and happens quite often. as does snow and thundershowers

Edited by rcowman on 08/21/2011 23:08:10 MDT.

Bryce F.
(bster13) - MLife

Locale: Norwalk, CT
Re: Re: How to be SUL??? on 08/24/2011 17:45:32 MDT Print View

Start searching the forums for SUL gear lists. I learned a lot there.

j lan
(justaddfuel) - F

Locale: MN
Re: How to be SUL??? on 08/24/2011 18:41:54 MDT Print View

This write up was the most accessible sub 5 gear list I have seen:
My first sub 5 trip!

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: How to be SUL??? on 08/24/2011 19:15:11 MDT Print View

Thru hike gear lists and references:

Warner Springs Monty
Krudmeister did the PCT in 2009

Edited by annapurna on 08/24/2011 23:25:27 MDT.

Tony Fleming
(TonyFleming) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
SUL lists on 08/24/2011 21:49:09 MDT Print View

There are several SUL lists here:

Here are a few samplings:

Can't find one of my favorites though


Casey Balza
(equals) - F
SUL links on 08/25/2011 09:32:11 MDT Print View

Awesome, thanks for the links. I have a lot of reading and research to do now :) I'm sure more questions will be coming once I read all of these when I get home from work.