All said and done, it came in at $6.01/yd... close enough to call it $6/yd for the folks who signed up on the spread sheet group order. I am really busy right now, and past experience tells me that this could turn into a logistical nightmare... so please bare with.

We have 300 yards of the 8D in the Green that was spec'd for the order. It's close enough to Kelly Green to call it Kelly Green. At this moment 151 yards is the total yardage on the spread sheet. That 151 yards will be honored at $6/yd. The remainder will end up on TiGoat's wesite in the near future. It will probably go up 20% - 25% ... roughly $7.20 to $7.50 per yd.

To keep this as simple as possible I will email everyone on the list an invoice within the next couple of days. This will be a paypal invoice with a link to make a secure online payment. For anyone that doesn't want to use paypal, you can contact me and mail a check or money order, but this will increase delivery time. Shipping will be via USPS Priority Flat Rate... $5 within the US... $15 outside the US.

Hopefully this will work for everyone.
Happy sewing, DJ

Sounds great.

Thanks a bunch DJ!

This is great - thanks for the update and I'll keep an eye open for the paypal invoice.

Thanks to everyone who put this together. Even marked up to $7-8/yd it still sounds like a good deal.

Any impressions of the quality, DWR, downproofness, breathability, etc.?

OOOO the excitement, I got the email today that the fabric is on its way from way out west!!!

I got my 5yds in today and have played with it a little. For the money this pretty nice stuff. Appears to be about 60" wide, of that probably 58" is usable, there is an imperfection along the length on each side -- similiar to the M50 I have from thru-hiker.

Weight appears to come in at spec, the five linear yds weigh about 7.5oz, I calculate roughly .66oz/yd^2.
Wind resistance is no where near as nice as M50 or Tigoat 7D (maybe 1/2 or 1/3).
But those are excellent in this regard for there weight.

Water resistance doesn't seem to be as good as M50 or 7D, probably a result of a lower quality DWR and/or looser weave/poorer calandering. But I wouldnt say it is significantly worse

I think this would be good material for liner material on on sythetic insulating clothing/sleeping bag, would consider it for the shell as well depending on the shelter I was using.
I will have to test the down resistance before trying it there (probably make small down pillow to put through the wringer).
I think this would also be nice enough material for a largish bivy (that is one that doesn't sit right on your sleeping bag). Or even a tent liner (if someone was so bold).

Agree - should be good for bivys as it does pass air pretty well. Not as soft as 7d, more similar to 1.1oz nylon in that regard. I have my suspicions on its downproofness. Overall, pretty happy for $6.00/yd.

Ryan

Knowing how down proof is extremely important for me. I have plans for a down quilt and pants for most of the fabric. If anyone has some spare down around and would make a quick pillow to check that would be very helpful. I still have to order the down and all the other notions for my projects so I won't be able to find out for a few month.

Never thought this deal would materialize, or be as described; but I was wrong on both points.

Many thanks, Josh, for taking the time to put it together.

This is my first run-in with a really gossamer fabric, and did not expect too much.
But it has reasonable strength for a sleeping bag or quilt that will be treated carefully, and enough DWR not to wet out immediately on contact with moisture. Was looking for something super light for the shell of a bag using 3M Thinsulate Liteloft for insulation that like down, would be compartmentalized, but not sewn or otherwise affixed to the shell, in an effort to allow all of the insulation to maintain its maximum loft.

The challenge is figuring out a way to baffle it in a manner that will conform to a differential cut, not add significant weight, and not fall apart when washed.
There is an old Holubar down bag kit in the store room downstairs that might yield some clues.

I like the sound of this stuff. Anyone have buyers remorse and want to resell their stash to me? If so please send me a PM.

Daryl

I got my 5 yards, thanks

Fabric looks uniform with no defects, no odor

I don't really like the very green color - sort of like a costume for an elf - but I'll get over it

It's 60 inches wide x 180 inches long. Sprocket holes on both sides so usable width is probably 58 inches

Weighs 0.67 ounces per square yard

Now, what do I do with it?

Edited by retiredjerry on 10/20/2011 11:19:58 MDT.

Yup, I get 0.67 oz/yd^2 as well. I agree with you on the color...not great, but I'll deal with it.

First step for me is using it as a liner for some 2L eVent.

lol...It is *very* green. Make something down-filled so we can see if anything pokes through. I'm afraid to be the guinea pig.

Ryan

It might be down-proof but probably not

It feels okay for a liner

I think I'll use it for the lining for a sleeping bag

Update-

In an effort to finally do something with this fabric, I decided to test its downproofness before going any further with my plans. Took an hour and threw together a 10"x12" down pillow using 2.5oz of 800 fill. Final product pics below. Forgive the less than professional quality. I put little effort into this because I don't plan on using it. Not a fan of down pillows.

After sitting on it, laying on it, stuffing/unstuffing it 15x, and generally being rough with it all day, it has only had 1-2 tiny pin feathers poke through. Not too bad considering my WM bag with Pertex loses 4-5 clusters every time I look at it.

Pillow specs:
Fill weight: 70g
Total weight: 74g
Loft: A lot





Ryan

Edited by ViolentGreen on 11/05/2011 17:28:08 MDT.

Thanks Ryan, that is the best news I got all day!!! I have 12 oz of 900fp down on the way to make a quilt and down pants. In a few weeks I should have some photos to show off for what I made with some of the fabric. After cutting out the pattern for my quilt, and marking out the pants I am really happy with this fabric so far. It cuts cleanly in all directions, the feel on both sides is really nice. I think it is going to be an amazing deal in the long run.

DJ

Just curious when you thought it might appear on the Tigoat site? I'm gonna be in the States for a few weeks and I'm now intrigued because of the positive down reports early on.

Thanks

Just wanted to make a note, just so nobody freaks out if they start loosing more feathers than expected, that you can probably expect it to be a little less downproof than your test when used in a quilt or something.

My experience has shown that when tightly stuffed like the pillow in the test there, the loss is much less likely than in a scenario where you stuffing based on fill power where you don't want to over compress.

I'm not saying it's not downproof, I'm just giving a little fyi. I'm sure it'll be perfectly functional. Just probably on par with first gen EB Downlight jacket's fabrics. You'd have to be loosing a *TON* of feathers every use for it to ever add up enough to matter.

It should have used approx 8.4g to stuff to 2" thickness, assuming that's how tall the side panel is. Obviously that wouldn't work for a pillow (although high fill power down is really not very good for this application), but it's not going to convey an accurate representation of downproofness, because you've got many times more than the usual amount of compression keeping it packed tightly together.

I know this may sound counter-intuitive, but that's just been my observation. I've actually made a pillow out of entirely non-downproof fabrics before with high fp down and had minimal loss due to this phenomenon.

There was talk about some more of this being available, maybe a little more expensive

Is this correct?

I WANT SOME.... dang should have got in on the fist run. will there be a second buy up? or is anyone gonna sell some ?