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Michael Levine
(Trout) - F

Locale: Long Beach
Pillow on 07/19/2011 14:28:44 MDT Print View

Hi all,

So I've been trying out different inflatable pillows and find both the Kooka bay one and the flexair single chamber uncomfortable. Mostly I think this is due to my head wanting to roll off of the thing and never quite coming to a comfy spot, even when underinflated. I was thinking of trying to find a way to maybe bond the very middle of the fabric of the kooka bay to the other side, giving it a middle dimple. I was thinking that if small enough it shouldn't make my head hit the group (the surrounding area would hopefully prevent that.

A) Is this a dumb idea?

B) Do you have any other ideas?

C) What would be a decent way to go about this? I'm thinking just a small puncture in the middle and some seam sealer inside and out.

I have tried the Mike C. ziplocks and a stuff sack method to no avail

Edited by Trout on 07/19/2011 15:48:12 MDT.

Keith Bassett

Locale: Pacific NW
Heat seal? on 07/19/2011 14:41:31 MDT Print View

Is it heat bondable polyurethane coated nylon? Maybe you could heat seal a dot into the middle?

Michael Levine
(Trout) - F

Locale: Long Beach
pillow on 07/19/2011 14:45:56 MDT Print View

I wish I knew more about fabrics to help address that question, but all I know is that it looks like and the manufacturer doesn't say.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: pillow on 07/19/2011 14:49:05 MDT Print View

I assume you've tried under-inflating the pillow and that doesn't work for you?

Ozzy McKinney
(PorcupinePhobia) - F

Locale: PNW
Hair Tie on 07/19/2011 15:15:21 MDT Print View

had the same issue, underinflating the pillow a bit and a hair tie tight around the center makes an ok quick fix

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: pillow on 07/19/2011 15:28:39 MDT Print View

What about Mike's tip of using several gallon zip top bags partially inflated?

I've had the same problem, head rolls around, I just use a foam pillow but it's kind of heavy - about 5 ounces

Michael Levine
(Trout) - F

Locale: Long Beach
pillow on 07/19/2011 15:40:03 MDT Print View

Sorry I should have said that yes, I under inflate and it's still pretty bad to me. I've also tried Mike C's advice with the zip locks but it wasn't something I did well with.

I'll have to try the hair tie thing! I think that might actually be pretty perfect to sort of sandwich me in the middle

Edited by Trout on 07/19/2011 15:40:34 MDT.

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Pillow on 07/19/2011 16:22:54 MDT Print View

Hair tie is pretty stinkin' ingenious. I've been putting the flexair pillow inside my $5 Walmart fleece pillow with memory foam (tossed the plastic air pillow that came in it). Trying a WM pillow next.

Edited by skinewmexico on 07/19/2011 16:23:44 MDT.

Michael Barber

Locale: Western NC Mountains
Good idea on 07/21/2011 07:22:29 MDT Print View

Yep, I second the hair tie. That's lighter than my idea: I had planned to try a light cable tie for the same thing. If the hair tie works it would be more comfortable and probably lighter.

Michael Levine
(Trout) - F

Locale: Long Beach
pillow on 07/21/2011 09:02:02 MDT Print View

Well, I can tell you my experiences so far. Tuesday I tried out the Kooka Bay pillow, woke up a bit unhappy due to tons of sweat. Last night I tried the hair tie idea with a buff wrapped around the pillow, which was a LOT better. I eventually got another hair tie (yes, I bought a pack for backpacking) and made a sort of tiny middle, big sides, type pillow, that was pretty killer! WAY better than a single pocket inflatable and I didn't wake up all sweaty gross

Edited by Trout on 07/21/2011 09:02:35 MDT.

Erik Dietz

Locale: Los Angeles
FlexAir Pillow on 07/21/2011 10:47:23 MDT Print View

Have you tried these?

I used one last weekend in Mammoth for four days and it worked great. I just under inflate it some and my head stays on no problem. Well worth the extra .5 oz

oops, sorry I didn't see that you mentioned this type of pillow in your original post. Disregard my post.

Edited by erikdtz on 07/21/2011 12:46:00 MDT.