What packs are there out there for sul long weekend trips? Theres the zero anything without a 6 week wait ?

GG Murmur, and I think Ron at MLD has some Burn Packs in stock.

+1 on the GG Murmur. I think it's the ideal long weekend pack, offering only what you need and not a thing more. It's like the Smart car of backpacks...

Michael

+1 on the Burn (which could be in stock). The fit is magical (at least for my 5'9"/150 lbs body with the medium).

EMS Packable Pack, 9oz, 1500 cu in., $30 (I got one on sale for $21 if I remember correctly)

http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4399091&lmdn=Brand&cp=3677352.11373430.4456715

Patagonia Lightweight Travel Pack

I don't have one, but I was looking at one the other day in the store.

11.4 oz (as listed, I haven't weighed one), 1,587 cu in., $79

http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/patagonia-lightweight-travel-pack?p=48817-0-247


You could get both of these packs in less than 8 weeks, if you have a trip coming up soon.

best of luck,
v

North face Verto
Camp Phantom
Seas 2 summit pocket daypack
Hyperlight mountain gear drybag pack
Gossamergear Riksack
REI Flash 18
MEC travel light top load pack

I forgot to mention I would like it under 4ounces I have a TNF verto and I like it but i need something light to go to the whole xul thing

HMG drybag pack
Riksack
Sea 2 summit pocket day pack

are all under 4 ounces. The old GG g6 whisper was 4 ounces

I really like how the Zpacks Zero look.

But thats prolly a looooong way off for me.

Question for you gurus of the extremes of Ultra-Lightness, based upon experience what backpack you would take when a bear canister was required either large or small.

I have a BV450 and a BV500 canister. Given that they weight 2 pounds, 1 ounce and 2 pounds, 9 ounces respectively, if I'm going by the numbers, my SUL/XUL hopes are pretty much dashed. Maybe I could still hit an SUL load with the smaller cannister...but it doesn't fit in my homemade 6 oz. pack. Next smallest pack I have is a Golite Jam, 19 oz. The Jam and small canister would leave me less than 2 pounds of other gear to hit a sub 5 packweight...I suppose it's doable, but I don't bother.

Cans and SUL/XUL don't seem too compatible...

Custom pack to hold that canister. probably a cuben style, like a zpacks, or a zimmerman creation could get one in at around 9-11 ounces. you would have cut back on iother features to come in at a low weight.

It depends on how many days long the trip is.

If it is only a few days, my little Bear Boxer (1.6 lb) is pretty compact for a bear canister, and it will easily fit into any 8-oz backpack of 1500 cubic inches.

If it is a longer trip, the solo BearVault 450 (2 lb 1 oz) holds more food. An old sub-1-lb Golite Breeze holds it with ease.

If it is longer still, the larger BearVault 500 (2 lb 9 oz) holds more. The Golite Breeze stills it with ease. However, now we have eaten up a lot of the weight allowance with just two items.

--B.G.--

Go for the Zero (you'll love it). Tell Joe when you need it by; see what he can do.
Here are the specs for mine:
Zpacks Zero 1400ci Cuben = 2.8 oz.
+ Detachable Sternum Strap = 0.2
+ Removable Waist Belt = 1.2
+ Bungee Accessory Cordage = 0.4

I can't tell but does the EMS packable pack have a hipbelt?

The EMS pack doesn't have a hip belt or sternum strap.

I like that EMS pack a lot for the price. Might pick that up. Anyone link to some good instructions on adding a hipbelt to something like that?

LAUFBURSCHE make the huckePÄCKchen, the small version of the huckePACK about which I wrote the review here. 180 gram in cuben, iirc.

Ended up making my own 28 liter main compartment side waterbottle Pockets made the pack body out of grey sil and the bottom and strap reinforcement with 1.9 ounce ripstop final weight 4 ounces