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Ray Knechtel
(RayK) - MLife
Thermarest NeoAir XTherm..R5.7..15oz? on 07/11/2011 14:43:10 MDT Print View

Has anyone seen any info on this one yet? From what I read it has an R value of 5.7 and is 430 grams (15.15oz) in the regular size. Thermarest says it's only overseas but couldn't give me any more information about it. Seems to beat the NeoAir All Season in warmth and weight. Did I miss that this one coming out?

Link:
http://www.outdoor-show.com/od-en/press/novelties-worldwide.php?lid=652&sMode=detail

Edited by RayK on 07/11/2011 15:12:37 MDT.

Jeremy Platt
(jeremy089786) - F

Locale: Sydney
Good find on 07/11/2011 16:26:23 MDT Print View

First I have heard about it too. I have only been able to find info on German sites, so maybe just released in one of their outdoor festivals. Maybe find it in the summer OR market this year?

Bradford Rogers
(Mocs123) - MLife

Locale: Southeast Tennessee
Re: Thermarest NeoAir XTherm..R5.7..15oz? on 07/12/2011 18:27:25 MDT Print View

This is the fist time I have heard about this pad, but it looks too good to be true. Does Cascade Designs make all of their pads sold in other countries in the USA, or is this a product from a foreign factory?

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Thermarest NeoAir XTherm..R5.7..15oz? on 07/12/2011 19:27:54 MDT Print View

It is a new item just presented at the 2011 Outdoor show in Europe.
This is a link from the future :
http://www.ifdesign.de/presse_detailseite_e.html?pmid=558
(note the date...)
scan down for the blurb on the XTherm
Franco

Chad Poindexter
(Stick) - F

Locale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
Mummy cut on 07/12/2011 20:17:29 MDT Print View

Bummer that it is a mummy cut though...I was fine with mummy cut until I used a rectangular cut and now I don't really want to go back...maybe it is not too tapered though...

Nice pad though...

Elena Lee
(lenchik101) - F - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest (USA)
Outdoor Global Show on 07/14/2011 18:30:20 MDT Print View

Did you read the Novelties with Images PDF? a few interesting things

Lightweight expedition men’s Down Jacket Ambition
The expedition jacket Ambition is lightweight high-tech in perfection. Size L only
weighs 380g. Besides the fabric Next to Nothing the jacket comes with the almost
weightless so-called H-chamber design. Filling: 800 + inch ³ European Down 95 / 5
(according to U.S. standard: approximately 870 inch ³).

Yeti Down Vests Proton and Cosmo made of NTN 7x7, the thinnest down proof
fabric of the world
The vests Proton (men) and Cosmo (women) of the Dynamics collection redefine the
term "lightweight": Next to Nothing 7x7 is the thinnest down proof material of the
world and encloses high-quality crystal downs. The fabric is water repellent and
anti-static and hardly loses feathers. Worldwide only a few hundred meters of the
high-tech fiber exist as the production process is very complex.

USP – the new Ultralight Soft Protection from Schoeller Textil AG floated
straight to the fore.
The Olympics of “technical lightweights” has been opened: The new USP (Ultralight
Soft Protection) technology from Schoeller Textil AG opens the competition in the
fabric discipline “technical lightweights" with a previously undreamed of comfortable
lightness coupled with wind proofing and rain resistance.

BLUNT umbrellas New Zealand - Stormproof up to Wind Force 12 (>117 km/h) with
a revolutionary design

Bradford Rogers
(Mocs123) - MLife

Locale: Southeast Tennessee
Re: Outdoor Global Show on 07/15/2011 09:55:11 MDT Print View

I didn't read it until you mentioned it. Here are a few other items that I found interesting. 2012 could be a good year for UL backpacking!

Exped DownMat UL7 19.75oz R 5.9 -24*C

Montane Slipstram Smock - Hooded windshirt 2.82oz

Montane Minimus – Rain pants – no weight given but the “worlds lightest waterproof/breathable pants”

Mountain Hardwear Ghost Whisperer Anorak – Windshirt w/ 7D fabric – 1.87oz

Ray Knechtel
(RayK) - MLife
New Stuff on 07/15/2011 13:00:23 MDT Print View

Yeah, it looks like a lot of new things coming to market. I found it odd however to release the All Season and then the next year release something lighter and warmer. I guess they think the mummy design makes the difference.

Also, the MSR WhisperLite will take the same fuels it takes now plus IsoPro bottles. It says it'll come with different jets also so you'd get the best out of each type of fuel. Pretty cool stuff.

I'd like to see MSR come out with a lighter Reactor stove. I think it's about time.

Ray Knechtel
(RayK) - MLife
REI on 08/12/2011 11:37:13 MDT Print View

REI told me they won't be stocking the All Season and are waiting instead for the XTherm. Bummer because I still wanted the All Season for this year.

Ian Clark
(chindits) - MLife

Locale: Cntrl ROMO
Any thing new it's 2012 on 01/08/2012 20:03:38 MST Print View

Bump?

John Vance
(Servingko) - F

Locale: Intermountain West
All Season on 01/08/2012 20:20:58 MST Print View

Appearantly REI decided to carry the All Season as I purchased one at Christmas and they had a dozen or more in stock.

John McAlpine
(HairlessApe) - M

Locale: PNW
Xtherm out in April on 01/09/2012 16:15:54 MST Print View

From Cascade Design................

"Due to intense demand for the Xlite, the Xtherm has been pushed back and will be tentatively released in April. The regular size will weight 15oz and all sizes have an R valuve of 5.7. Let me know if you have any other questions. "

Thank you for contacting Cascade Designs, Inc.

Jonathan Ehlinger

Cascade Designs, Inc.

Edited by HairlessApe on 01/09/2012 16:17:15 MST.

Christopher Chupka
(FatTexan) - M

Locale: NTX
Dang it on 01/09/2012 16:32:14 MST Print View

Can't get a hold of Kookabay and wanted something lighter than the Exped. May have to go with the Stephenson Down Mat.

You would think they would want to get the winter mat out during the winter?!