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David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
And another series of bear attacks this week on 07/07/2011 18:08:56 MDT Print View

In addition to the ones in Yellowstone and Washington State


a. Yesterday--Black bear attacked jogger in British Columbia . Attack stopped by dogs on a walk.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/06/montana.grizzly.attack/index.html?

b.Monday--Grizzly mauls BC man, attacked started by dogs.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/07/05/bc-grizzly-attack-family.html

c. Thursday--At least one Bear killed B.C. native elder, coroner confirms
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/07/05/bc-woman-bear-autopsy.html

"Adolph had complained to conservation authorities about bears on her property.
Investigators found evidence that bears had tried to enter her house."

Konrad .
(Konrad1013) - MLife
bear attack during NOLS program on 07/24/2011 20:01:37 MDT Print View

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/24/alaska.bear.attack/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1

The amount of bear attacks recently is nuts. I'm hoping for the best for those injured.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: bear attack during NOLS program on 07/24/2011 22:20:41 MDT Print View

Wonder if this is the first group of four attacked by Alaska bears. Wilderness guides usually state that has never happened.

Edited by jshann on 07/24/2011 22:21:17 MDT.

a b
(Ice-axe)
Bear attacks on 07/24/2011 23:17:35 MDT Print View

It's the height of summer.
Bears are active in the backcountry.
People are active in the backcountry.
Is it really a surprise?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Bear attacks on 07/24/2011 23:29:11 MDT Print View

"Is it really a surprise?"

That it was a grizzly attacking a human was not a huge surprise. That it was a grizzly sow with cub attacking a human was not a huge surprise. The surprise was that it was a group of four humans. Grizzlies usually avoid those odds unless there is something really crazy going on.

--B.G.--

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
Fallout on 07/25/2011 09:22:26 MDT Print View

It will be interesting to see the fallout on policy and procedure at NOLS and others schools after this.

Can there be changes made in trip procedures that could prevent this? Is the rare
mauling just part of the risk?

Chris Hanson
(ChrisHanson) - F

Locale: Eastern Wyoming
Re: Alaskan Bear Attack on 07/25/2011 09:33:27 MDT Print View

I just heard a report on the radio in which they referenced an interview with one of the youth who was attacked. Apparently it happened in the dark and when the first person saw they mother bear and cub they started running back towards the group. At least the two who were most seriously injured turned their back on the bears and ran. According to another report I read, they were carrying bear spray. Sounds like a case of them panicking and triggering the attack by their actions.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Colorado Attack on 07/25/2011 09:54:27 MDT Print View

The media reported -

"In mid-July, wildlife officials in Colorado said they killed a black bear who they believed had wandered into a heavily populated campsite and attacked a teenage boy. The teen fought off the bear, then chased it away after being bit in the leg."

This was an Bow Hunters Association campout at a well used public campground.
Coolers full of food were left out.
The bear helped himself to the buffet.
An "altercation" took place, resulting in the bite to the leg.
The bear was tracked and killed.

IMHO the wrong party was punished.

Joslyn Bloodworth
(JoslynB) - F

Locale: Southwest
Sad... on 07/25/2011 12:02:00 MDT Print View

Greg, I'm really inclined to agree with you here. I always wonder when I hear these reports how much could have been prevented with just a little bit of knowledge.

Chris S
(csteutterman) - F

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: bear attack during NOLS program on 07/25/2011 12:12:50 MDT Print View

one thing i'd advise against is reading the comments below the article

Buck Nelson
(Colter) - MLife

Locale: Alaska
Another week where no one was killed by bears... on 07/26/2011 10:44:34 MDT Print View

There has been one fatal bear attack in the United States this year. Meanwhile, if this is a typical year, there have been nearly 23,000 killed on the highways (including 4 fatalities in Alaska the day before in two incidents within a few miles and a few hours of each other) 12,250 dead from falls, 2,300 drowned and 17 people KILLED by dogs.

The widespread report of this attack and other bear attacks says more about how relatively rare it is rather than how common it is.

Here are some real-world stats on what killed people in the backcountry in 2010: http://www.edarnell.com/Stats.htm Many years bears wouldn't appear on such a list at all. Every year bears would be way down the list.

It sounds to me like those teens did just about everything right. Sometimes life is risky and things go wrong.

T kawa
(kitsune) - F
Re: Sad... on 07/26/2011 10:53:25 MDT Print View

Hopefully no corporate entity see's profit in killing bears, or they'll be extinct in 5 years with help from the sensationalist media.... just like Palin trying to exterminte wolves.

Daniel Allen
(Dan_Quixote) - F

Locale: below the mountains (AK)
Re: Another week where no one was killed by bears... on 07/26/2011 13:22:59 MDT Print View

+1 Buck! I've gradually come to the conclusion that we are all scared of the wrong things; it's our conveniences, vices, and carelessness that kill us these days. We've so dominated this world and insulated ourselves from it that nature doesn't really do us much harm compared to what we inflict on ourselves.

"Sometimes life is risky and things go wrong." Absolutely!

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
Re: Re: Bear attacks on 07/27/2011 11:25:05 MDT Print View

""Is it really a surprise?"

That it was a grizzly attacking a human was not a huge surprise. That it was a grizzly sow with cub attacking a human was not a huge surprise. The surprise was that it was a group of four humans. Grizzlies usually avoid those odds unless there is something really crazy going on.

--B.G.--"

I just found another report of a grizzly attack on a group of 7 in 2005.

Guy used martial arts to kick the bear away.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/CTVNewsAt11/20050531/alberta_bearattack_20050530/

Daniel Fosse
(magillagorilla) - F

Locale: Southwest Ohio
Re: Re: Re: Bear attacks on 07/27/2011 12:38:59 MDT Print View

A bear hit on me at a club once. He was a nice bear though.

HK Newman
(hknewman) - MLife

Locale: Western US
Re: Re: Re: Bear attacks on 07/27/2011 12:52:40 MDT Print View

Guy used martial arts to kick the bear away.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/CTVNewsAt11/20050531/alberta_bearattack_20050530/


Everybody was kung-fu fighting
Those bears were fast as lightning
In fact it was a little bit frightning
But they fought with expert timing ...

1970's tune - a little before my time, really. Chaff .. couldn't resist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FARnbRBWKGg

Edited by hknewman on 07/27/2011 12:55:04 MDT.

John S.
(jshann) - F
More followup on NOLS bear mauling on 08/08/2011 08:04:22 MDT Print View

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/anatomy-alaska-bear-mauling-rescue

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
Polar bear attack in Norway on 08/09/2011 14:20:25 MDT Print View

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14456536

One dead, others in hospital.