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David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
Rain jackets less than 8 oz on 05/18/2011 10:54:49 MDT Print View

WPB jackets/anoraks/pullovers with a hood, and less than 8 oz, which are available right now.

What have I missed?

Montane Spektr 6
Montane Litespeed H20 6.3
Golite Malpais 7
OR Helium 6.9
Marmot Essence 6
Haglofs Ozo 6.4
TNF Triumph Anorak 5.8

Paul Tree
(Paul_Tree) - F

Locale: Wowwww
rab on 05/18/2011 11:06:39 MDT Print View

Rab women's kinetic is 8 supposedly.
Marmot Mica is 7 according to REI.
Super Mica: 9 oz.

I would be interested to know which of all these is most durable. Say for some brush or a heavier than UL pack.

For instance with the shoulder and hip patches they added to the Super Mica after the Mica, you'd think there must have been some problems just from a pack.

Edited by Paul_Tree on 05/18/2011 11:12:28 MDT.

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
8-11 oz on 05/18/2011 11:12:11 MDT Print View

Durability, that's the question isn't it?

There are quite a few jackets in the 11-8 oz range, with far fewer under 8. Begs the question of what drives this (given that 6 oz WPB shells have been around for half a decade or more): market demand, durability, technology?

Interesting to note that many difference membrane technologies are represented in the jackets I've listed.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Rain jackets less than 8 oz on 05/18/2011 12:35:10 MDT Print View

I just bought and received O2 Rainjacket. (Listed as Original Hooded Jacket for $31.95).

The pants and jacket together are under 10 oz.

http://shop.rainshield.com/products/productdetail/Original++Hooded+Jacket/part_number=1010/4889.0.1.1.0.0.0.0.0?

http://shop.rainshield.com/home/index/4889.0

Website for the company does not list the weight.

Amazon list the weight as 5.5 oz

http://www.amazon.com/O2-Hooded-Rain-Jacket-Drop/dp/B001M9J2OS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=apparel&qid=1305743497&sr=8-2

P.S. This is not a pull over...has a full zipper.

-Tony

Edited by Valshar on 05/18/2011 12:35:54 MDT.

Paul Tree
(Paul_Tree) - F

Locale: Wowwww
> 8 on 05/18/2011 13:06:24 MDT Print View

It could be that people really want their features: full front zip, pit zips (especially with the lesser breathability of some of these materials), hand pockets, waist cinch, inner pocket.

There are also many light bicycle jackets I haven't investigated because the usually do not have an attached hood.

Paul Tree
(Paul_Tree) - F

Locale: Wowwww
3-layer on 05/18/2011 13:12:16 MDT Print View

No other 3-layer besides Montane Spektr? Watching the guy struggle with it on video really turned me off. The Montane Air is like 10 oz.

If you know, it would be nice to show denier for each of the materials, even if that can't tell the whole story.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: 3-layer on 05/18/2011 13:31:19 MDT Print View

Rab Demand is 3-layer event and 9 oz, but also a pullover.

Rog Tallbloke
(tallbloke) - F

Locale: DON'T LOOK DOWN!!
Re: Re: Rain jackets less than 8 oz on 05/18/2011 13:50:14 MDT Print View

I have a Montane h2o aqua cycling jacket which is 5.5oz in a UK X-Large
No pit zips but a full front zip and a big vent across the shoulders.

Used a few times and seems fully waterproof. Didn't get too sweaty either.

Tim Zen
(asdzxc57) - F

Locale: MI
Re: Rain jackets less than 8 oz -- Essence Experience? on 05/18/2011 14:27:01 MDT Print View

Good topic. I want to drop my current 15 oz jacket. Does the Marmot Essence hold up? Father's day approaches, it is on sale, and since it is a present, I don't violate the no new gear pledge I took.

Edited by asdzxc57 on 05/18/2011 14:35:14 MDT.

R S
(rps76) - F
Golite Malpais on 05/18/2011 15:17:57 MDT Print View

A buddy of mine just tested this jacket for a magazine and after 2 months of use, you could compare the waterproofness (is that a word) to a cotton t-shirt. It's sad.

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
Rain jacket less than 8oz on 05/18/2011 15:25:43 MDT Print View

My Driducks XL jacket comes in at 6.1oz (FYI)
Durability is a issue.

Chris S
(csteutterman) - F

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Re: Rain jackets less than 8 oz -- Essence Experience? on 05/18/2011 16:06:11 MDT Print View

Tim, is the Essence on sale online somewhere?

jim jessop
(LuckyJim) - F
Rain Jackets on 05/18/2011 16:08:23 MDT Print View

The OMM Cypher is 8.6 oz for the pullover version and is made of 3 layer event.

They do a jacket version too.

Edited by LuckyJim on 05/18/2011 16:10:07 MDT.

Diane Pinkers
(dipink) - M

Locale: Western Washington
O2 Rainjacket on 05/18/2011 16:28:30 MDT Print View

Tony, what's the material like on the O2? It looks like it might want to be something like the FroggToggs/Driducks sort of papery material.

Eric Palumbo
(eplumb) - F
R on 05/18/2011 16:32:54 MDT Print View

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Edited by eplumb on 05/18/2011 16:35:37 MDT.

Eric Palumbo
(palumbo) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Re: 8-11 oz on 05/18/2011 16:36:16 MDT Print View

The First Ascent BC-200 is a 3-layer full zip. My large is 10.9 oz. I've been beating it up since I got it and it's held up great. It seems more waterproof and significantly more breathable the the Precip I replaced with it. Get it on sale at Eddie Bauer when they have a sale and it's only $160 and comes with their 100% satisfaction guarantee.

Tim Zen
(asdzxc57) - F

Locale: MI
Re: Re: Re: Rain jackets less than 8 oz -- Essence Experience? on 05/18/2011 16:36:41 MDT Print View

I think it was backcountrygear $140

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
sub 8 oz shells on 05/18/2011 18:12:20 MDT Print View

So it sounds like I didn't miss anything. Good. ;)

Robert Cowman
(rcowman) - F

Locale: Canadian Rockies
Re: sub 8 oz shells on 05/18/2011 18:53:10 MDT Print View

Marmot Nano jacket depending on size...

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: O2 Rainjacket on 05/19/2011 01:03:39 MDT Print View

Diane,

My understanding is that the O2 Rainsuit is like the DriDucks, but without the durability issues.

I have not seen the Driducks in person, but the way that you describe it, I think they are very similar.

The O2 Rainsuit does have a paper like feel to it and has a uniformly speckled texture/pattern to it.

Very light, but does not seem like it would tear easily.

Workmanship seems well enough without any sloppy, loose threads hanging off of it.

Jeremy used it on our Mt. Diablo trip last year and it rained on us for a few hours and he stayed dry and did not have any issues with it tearing.

Definitely would not take it bush wacking off trail.

-Tony