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SUL Pack Closures: Drawcord vs Velcro Roll-Top vs Buckle Roll-Top vs ??
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(cowexnihilo) - MLife
SUL Pack Closures: Drawcord vs Velcro Roll-Top vs Buckle Roll-Top vs ?? on 05/02/2011 18:24:16 MDT Print View

I'm working on a Sil prototype for a SUL pack and am wondering what is your favorite style of closure for the top.

Right now I'm leaning towards drawcord (a la zpacks) or velcro roll-top (like the GG Murmur), but would love to hear of any other innovative ideas that might be out there.

Dan Johnson

Locale: PNW
What's more important? on 05/02/2011 18:31:50 MDT Print View

I would think drawcord would be the quickest but a roll top would allow to have the opportunity to carry a little more supplies when needed.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: SUL Pack Closures: Drawcord vs Velcro Roll-Top vs Buckle Roll-Top vs ?? on 05/02/2011 19:03:19 MDT Print View

I like Velcro

If you fold the top over it's waterproof

If you want to get in the pack when it's wet, you unfold it and open the velcro and there's no wet fabric above the opening dripping into the pack

I've tried draw-cord but didn't find it as good in the rain

Hendrik Morkel
(skullmonkey) - MLife

Locale: Finland
Buckles on 05/02/2011 23:36:35 MDT Print View

SUL Buckles and closure a la Laufbursche huckePACK. Everything else is suboptimal.

Michael Ray
(topshot) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Re: Buckles on huckePACK on 05/03/2011 13:21:40 MDT Print View

Watched your video on packing it. Are the buckle straps long enough for when you might have the collar fully extended? They appear to be pretty far down the pack.

Other questions on the pack:
What type of expandable mesh are they using on the pockets? They seem to stretch forever.
Is the z-lite necessary since you also have the "burrito" mat inside for structure?

Eric Thompson
(er0ck) - F

Locale: PNW
roll tops.. on 05/03/2011 14:41:34 MDT Print View

i've been pondering this in some drybag TYPE setups i'm thinking of making.

i like the roll top with buckles down the side of the HMG windrider as others have implied as well:

one way to make this lighter may be with the types of lineloks with a hook and a grosgrain loop rather than a buckle on the sides...
maybe a loop of grosgrain on the two bag opening "corners". tie a length of paracord to this, down through the line-loks that hook to the gros-grain loops.

hope that makes sense.

i'm trying something like this for my small dry bags which don't really have the room for a roll, then clip the corners together type closure. in addition those buckles alone weigh more than a dry bag by itself.

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife
SUL Pack Closures: on 05/03/2011 14:58:50 MDT Print View

My pack (2005 model SMD Comet) has a velcro roll-top closure and I loathe it! Just try to get something knit or fleece anywhere near it without snagging it on the velcro! @!#$%&!!!

Since I have never used more than an inch or two of the extension collar anyway, I'm seriously considering whacking off the velcro and making a drawcord closure instead.

Just one person's opinion here....

Rakesh Malik

Locale: Cascadia
Re: SUL Pack Closures: on 05/03/2011 21:30:42 MDT Print View

I'm with you on the velcro, honestly; I've been using my HMG Windrider as my commuting pack for a while now, and I also used it as my day pack on Kilimanjaro, and right now the velcro catching my fleece or wool is the only thing that I'd ask them to remove if I were getting another.

The rolltop + side buckles is nice though, it does ensure that the pack is waterproof.