Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations
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James Castleberry
(Winterland76)
Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 08:27:24 MDT Print View

Story in today's Sac Bee about yosemite reservations. Should have known. Really sad. Any suggestions?
Scalpers Flipping Yosemite Reservations

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 08:33:55 MDT Print View

"Any suggestions?"

Don't buy from scalpers.

Edited by idester on 04/18/2011 08:34:26 MDT.

Michael L
(mpl_35) - MLife

Locale: The Palouse
Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 08:45:00 MDT Print View

This is just the market correcting itself. :)

Ryan W
(mwilks) - F
Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 09:01:01 MDT Print View

"Any suggestions? "

Avoid summer and embrace the off seasons!

Jack H.
(Found) - F

Locale: Sacramento, CA
Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 09:06:44 MDT Print View

I just finished that article! It blows me away.

+1 for not buying from scalpers.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 09:42:42 MDT Print View

Sports events have the same problem

Sometimes there are counterfeit tickets sold to complicate things

In the Enchantments, they have a lottery system, there's an extended period to submit requests and then they choose winners. That would fix part of the Yosemite problem.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 14:19:31 MDT Print View

The solution is to stay just outside the park boundary. No fee. No reservations.

--B.G.--

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 14:31:49 MDT Print View

The guy in that article said he goes on Craigslist and flags people selling Yosemite reservations. If you guys want to do the same, here's a search that pulls up nationwide results.

Yosemite search

Sorry for the tinyurl link. I hate doing that. It's my first time. The Searchtempest.com link is too long or complicated for the BPL website software to work with.

Edited by leaftye on 04/18/2011 14:33:41 MDT.

Scott Gustafson
(Scott_Gus) - F

Locale: Northern California
Yosemite Scalpers on 04/18/2011 14:38:40 MDT Print View

I've never done half dome and now I do not want to.. to many people, to crowded. I want to be where they are never going to go. I flagged a few last night after a friend told me he saw them listed for as high as $75.

Scott

Lyan Jordan
(redmonk)

Locale: Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem
Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 14:42:56 MDT Print View

Respond to the ads. Get their contact information. Share it. Flag the Ads.

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 15:06:03 MDT Print View

Cameron. That's a good idea. Waste their time. Make it such a hassle that they give it up.

Jeffs Eleven
(WoodenWizard) - F

Locale: Greater Mt Tabor
Re: Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 16:32:10 MDT Print View

Why don't they make them non-transferable?

The park gets the money even if the party doesn't show up. Then there would be a few less people to wade through and the park gets paid. Win/ win

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 18:04:50 MDT Print View

Why not just make all of Yosemite a designated wilderness area? We could even tear out all the asphalt roads :)

peter vacco
(fluff@inreach.com) - M

Locale: no. california
why yosemite needs roads. and a bar. on 04/18/2011 18:43:38 MDT Print View

yosemite valley is hardy the untouched unmolested wilderness that it might once an extremely long time ago have been. they just recently took out the hydro electric plant (and did a pretty slick job of it too. and it cost god knows what to do it that way)
and the reason You want, really truly want, roads and campsites with showers and pottys, and a better bar, and perhaps even bring back the gas station is this.

we are old.
we are few.
we are wearing out.

there's nothing of note behind us, just a soggy batch of softass loosers who are led by the nose from one outrage to another.
and if no young children wake up in yosemite valley on a cold morning and eat crappy half-cooked pancakes from a coleman stove while their parents bithc at each other, how they going to learn to fall in love with the wilderness ? how ? eh ? how ?
because their parents/grandparents take them ultaralight backpacking ?
give me a break.
it ain;t happens often.
we need to make some places accessable to normal people to the little ones can partake of the greatness of it all.
the valley was trashed a century ago. it's not going to be the same. ever.
(and for one it will never be the same because i rode my dirt bike in their merced river.)
but FANTASTIC use can be made of it as a way to enlighten others on the wonders of the outdoors.

and that is why you/we want people camping and being fat and walking and bicyle'ing and strolling and looking at the rocks, and eating slurpies (and terrible pizzas), and meeting people form ALL over the world in the lounge at camp curry on rainy days, and freezing in the phitty tent cabins and generally being the slovenly goons like people are .. in yosemite valley.
so we will have enough sentient caring bodies later on to know the difference between a good hydro project, and one that could, but perhaps should, not be built.

you toss folks and kids out of yosemite ... you're eating your seed corn.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/18/2011 18:50:59 MDT Print View

Peter, you seem sad.

You should go see a movie, like "Atlas Shrugged".

peter vacco
(fluff@inreach.com) - M

Locale: no. california
half dome ? on 04/18/2011 19:03:46 MDT Print View

the tickets are for the weekends? right ?
go on a weekday anyway to avoid the crowd (which can be kinda fun actually).

you will find a bit late in the season and on a weekday, that halfdome is a rather nice adventure.

start EARLY.

bring foods.

and a filter is you care to.
----------
do not fall into that insensitive morass of pumping water at the top of the second falls on a blisteringly hot saturday afternoon so you can hit on new zealand co-eds. because it's just crass... and it's tacky.

i'm simply doing my best to warn you that there are less than fully scrupulous individuals out there, and that they may try and "lead" you into something not particularly wholesome.

v.

Rick Dreher
(halfturbo) - MLife

Locale: Northernish California
Re: half dome ? on 04/18/2011 19:46:58 MDT Print View

Hi Peter,

Nope, the permits are required seven days a week.

http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/hdpermits.htm

Then there's this:

NOTE: This hiking permit is transferable, but cannot be resold or auctioned.
Resale of this permit is a violation of Title 36, Code of Federal Regulations, section 1.6. You are allowed to give this permit to anyone else, but each permit can only be used once.


http://www.recreation.gov/permits/Cables_On_Half_Dome_Yosemite_National_Park/r/wildernessAreaDetails.do?page=detail&contractCode=NRSO&parkId=79064&topTabIndex=Permits

They'll have to deal with the reselling, hard to guess how, without knowing how the current system is designed and managed.

Cheers,

Rick

p.s. I doubt the cables will be up by the scheduled date.
p.p.s. Something wrong with Kiwi coeds?

carl becker
(carlbecker) - F

Locale: Northern Virginia
Re: Scalpers flipping Yosemite Reservations on 04/19/2011 07:28:32 MDT Print View

IMHO everyone should get info from the scalpers and report them and or make a charge against them. Unfortunately I have to do this at home with people who trespass or will not clean up after their dogs. I have a dog and clean up after her.

Jason Torres
(burytherails) - F

Locale: Texas
Nope, the permits are required seven days a week. on 04/22/2011 17:33:04 MDT Print View

Peter,

As Rick has posted, permits are now needed 7 days a week. This changed last year. My fiance and I did half dome in Nov 09 on a Tuesday - no permit necessary. Probably a change for good since even on a Tuesday the trail was jammed on the way down. Winter hiking is tops.


+1 for not buying from scalpers.

Safe travels,

Jason