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Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
MYOG-SW Capilene Hood Project: on 11/06/2006 19:28:52 MST Print View

MYOG - SW Capilene Hood Project:

With all the recent posts about the SmartWool Shadow Hoody I dug through my box of patterns to find a Vest/Hood pattern I have. I bought the pattern a year or so ago thinking I would use it for an insulated Vest project. The pattern is KWIK Sew Pattern # 2551, it will make a Vest with or without a Hood. The same pattern also has a pattern for just a Hood.

KWIK SEW Pattern # 2551:

I have looked at the Smartwool Shadow Hoody but I don't like SmartWool products. I had some Capilene Silk Weight fabric in several colors that I have never used and decided I would practice on the Capilene first and then maybe use a different fabric if I didn't like the Capilene. My first Hood used a pattern I made (the small Hood is 1.07 ounces) and the second Hood (the larger Hood is 2 ounces) used The KWIK Sew pattern. Both Hoods have a draw cord. Both Hoods are shown with my Patagonia #2 Wool Zip Crew.

Smartwool Shadow Hoody:

The Hood pattern I made is designed to sew onto a collar and be part of the garment. It is a three piece Hood like the one used on the Patagonia DragonFly and other jackets. I used my DragonFly to make my Hood pattern.

Three piece Hood - weight 1.07 ounces.

Two piece Hood - 2 ounces.

Worn on the outside of the garment:

Worn inside of the garment:

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
A Teaser for Ryan-#2 Wool Hoody on 11/07/2006 17:13:49 MST Print View

A Teaser for Ryan - #2 Wool Hoody
Patagonia #2 Wool Hoody - Next

I am about finished with the pattern phase of this project. One slight adjustment to my pattern and I will be ready to add a Hood to my Patagonia #2 Wool Zip. The necessary Hood material will come from my original Patagonia #2 Wool Crew. I have made three Hoods out of Silk Weight Capilene for practice as I don't want to ruin the material from my #2 Wool Crew.

The Patagonia (Merino) Wool Hoody will have a few other modifications. I have an Icebreaker item with thumb-cuffs and something like them will be added.

The Hood will have a draw cord around the face so it can be tightened and/or pulled up over my nose if I want to.

The stock hem on the Patagonia Wool item is made a little long and it is longer on the back. It might be long enough to meet Ryan's requirement.

I have to think about how a set of "tuck-away" mittens might be added to the sleeves so they will not be in the way. The Merino material does compress small and I have a couple of ideas on how the mitten idea might work.

I guess a day or so will tell if everything works or if I just ruin my wool crew.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
Patagonia #2 Wool Zip-Hoody Finished on 11/07/2006 23:23:23 MST Print View

I have finished the modification of my Merino Patagonia #2 Wool Zip to turn it into a Zip-Hoody.

This was easier than I thought it was going to be. I will still add the thumb-cuff things and maybe the "tuck-away" mittens. I am using 3/32" shock cord on the Hood and I think I can find a lighter weight draw cord.

My size large Patagonia #2 Wool Zip-Hoody weighs 8.09 ounces. The standard #2 Wool Zip in size large was 6.63 ounces. My Hood added 1.5 ounces in extra weight.

The material I used was from my Merino #2 Wool Crew. I have enough of the Merino left over to do one more Hoody.

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
MYOG-SW Capilene Hood Project: on 11/08/2006 17:02:23 MST Print View

ACK! Bill, everything looks very professional thus far, but isn't it hard to cut into that material like that? I can't even begin to imagine myself taking a scissors to my Arc'Teryx wool.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
Patagonia #2 Wool Zip-Hoody Finished on 11/08/2006 17:56:23 MST Print View

Hi Sam,

Thanks for the nice comment.

The Patagonia Wool is a really nice fabric. It cuts easy you just have to watch the "grain" of the fabric.

Q - "isn't it hard to cut into that material like that? I can't even begin to imagine myself taking a scissors to my Arc'Teryx wool."

A - When I decide to try this project I studied several hooded garments I have. I liked the Hood on my Dragonfly jacket and made my pattern from that one. You note that I made three Hoods out of Silk Weight Capilene first for practice and to tweak my pattern. Then you just need faith in your sewing ability and go for it. Take it slow and focus only on what you are doing (sewing).

You can always buy another Arc'Teryx wool ?? if you mess it up.

Eric Parsons
(EricP) - F

Locale: Alaska
suffer face on 11/10/2006 10:34:58 MST Print View

I've been wanting to this to my R1, to make a version of the R1 hoodie that is hard to come by.

Nice job on the hood, in the pic's you even got your suffer face on like Jason and roman. ha ha

and I agree with sam, cutting into a $100 or so garment... commited

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
R1 Hoody item #40070 on 11/10/2006 11:02:31 MST Print View


My new 2006-2007 Fall/Winter Patagonia catalog shows a
R1 Hoody that they say "It's back" in the add. $125 and 11oz for what ever size ?? they use. Comes in Black.

Not Wool but it looks nice.

Joshua Mitchell
(jdmitch) - F

Locale: Kansas
R1 Hoody on 11/10/2006 13:43:00 MST Print View

Wow... that is a nice looking garment.

Jonathan Duckett
(Thunderhead) - F

Locale: Great Smoky Mountains
R1 Hoody in stock on 07/25/2007 08:08:07 MDT Print View

R1 hoody in stock at!

Robert Devereux
(robdev) - F

Locale: Pittsburgh, PA
Wool hoodie on 07/27/2007 08:53:44 MDT Print View

That looks nice. It's reassuring that somebody has been able to make one. That makes me feel like I could try, although I'll need to practice a bit first.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
MYOG-SW Capilene Hood Project: on 07/27/2007 10:38:13 MDT Print View


For practice I made several out of silk weight capilene first. Work out your pattern, make a few for practice and then go for it.

I would suggest you buy an XXXL or largest size you can for the one you are going to cut up. I had enough material in a size large to make two hoods and a bit of material left over.

It would be easy for Patagonia to add a Hooded #2 Wool item their line.

Time will tell.

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
Hoody-mania on 07/27/2007 11:11:47 MDT Print View

Bill, I suggest you rub your modded Patagonia Hoody in their faces (nicely, of course)-----they will be interested. I find their CS and R&D people very responsive to input. This may prod them into developing one.

P.S. Very nice, Bill.

P.P.S. Incidentally, Patagonia got a lot of correspndence concerning bringing back the classic R1 Hoody---as much as I love my Shadow Hoody, this is still probably the best of show for Winter and Alpinism due to superior wicking and quicker drying than wool. In my humble experience, of course. :-)> But for 3 season backpacking I likes me non-stinkin' merino.

Edited by kdesign on 07/27/2007 11:28:35 MDT.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
MYOG-SW Capilene Hood Project: on 07/27/2007 12:19:24 MDT Print View

Hi Kevin,

Back in Nov 2006 when I finished the #2 Wool Hoody I sent pictures to a Patagonia CS person I know. Patagonia has a "Unsolicited Ideas Policy" and don't normally look at outside ideas. They were interested enough to have me sign a waiver of sorts and when I did that they agreed to look at my idea and pictures.

My CS friend told me later that if they added a #2 Wool Hoody like mine or close it wasn't likely I would get any credit for the idea. He did say to save all my emails and if a #2 Wool Hoody shows up for sale by them to get in touch with him and he will get me a free or nearly free one.

It would be really easy for them to make as they are making a number of hooded items and the patterns should be easy to convert to a #2 Wool Hoody.

I know that they are adding a couple more #2 Wool items but no Hoody has showed yet.

Joshua Mitchell
(jdmitch) - F

Locale: Kansas
Re: MYOG-SW Capilene Hood Project: on 07/27/2007 12:45:04 MDT Print View

That would be so sweet if the would bring a #2 hoody out...

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
theoretical Patagonia Hoody on 07/27/2007 13:53:00 MDT Print View

Or a #3---that would be about the Shadow's weight.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
BPL Hoodie on 11/10/2008 17:45:15 MST Print View


It only took you a bit over 2 years to get here with your Merino Hoodie. Two years to market for a new product like this may be good. I am glad it is about here as it should be popular.

I have been wearing my MYOG Patagonia Merino #2 Hoodie for a bit over 2 years. Some for hiking but mostly around the house and it has held up well. It is really great and light to sleep in and I use it here at home on cold days a lot.

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: BPL Hoodie on 11/10/2008 18:22:29 MST Print View

Interesting new profile pic, Bill. Are you being ironic?

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
BPL Hoodie-MYOG on 11/14/2008 09:21:21 MST Print View

"Interesting new profile pic, Bill. Are you being ironic?"

Hi Devin,

Ironic, interesting word.

I was on my way home last night from the hospital after having yet another bit of surgery to remove cancer from my Bladder. This is number 15 since 1997 and twice this year for my Bladder. I am doing fine.

While drving myself home I was listening to the Dennis Miller radio show. He had interviewed Don Rickles, old time comedian, who has just written a book. Dennis had just said that Don was the most "Ironic" person he had ever met. He went on to say his definition of "Ironic" was that Don was the dam funniest man he has ever know.

What is your definition of "Ironic"?

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: BPL Hoodie-MYOG on 11/14/2008 12:59:45 MST Print View

That word is thrown around a lot, Alanis Morissette being another culprit guilty of its misuse.

Regarding your profile pic, let me pull it up... I was using Webster's 2a - the use of words [in this case an image] to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning. Now, generally, people use their profile pictures to show something they like, maybe a place, maybe something they do. The straight forward meaning of your use of that picture would seem to be "Hey, check out this cool Hummer roarin' through the desert, yee hah!" but I know that you have, for instance, taken a strong position against people running wilderness trails because of the increased erosion it causes. So I thought you might be using you profile instead to show something you didn't like - like the big impact 4-wheelers like that leave on both our wilderness land and collective air. Anyway, it made me laugh, hopefully with you. :)

I'm glad to hear that you're as well as can be expected given that run of surgeries. A friend of mine, with the healthiest lifestyle of anyone I know, has recently been in and out of the hospital for melanoma that has spread to his lungs - a dark irony. Lung cancer for a man who has never smoked a day in his life. Webster's 3 - an event marked by incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result.

Donna C
(leadfoot) - M

Locale: Middle Virginia
Re: BPL Hoodie-MYOG on 11/15/2008 06:00:50 MST Print View

Hi Bill,
First, it's great to see that you have such courage and strength to fight your cancer. I'm glad you're still doing what you like to do.

I do have a question about working with the merino wool...did you have to do anything to the raw edges when you sewed the seams? How easy/difficult was the wool to sew? I have an old Singer without all the fancy stitchings but wondered if this project would work with it. Also the same questions for the capilene.