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Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Libya on 03/19/2011 14:26:02 MDT Print View

Just heard on the radio that the U.S. has fired a cruise missile at a defense site in Libya.

Who knows where this is going now.....

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Libya on 03/19/2011 14:58:16 MDT Print View

Is it going to be Bosnia or Afganistan?

John Nausieda
(Meander) - MLife

Locale: PNW
libya on 03/19/2011 14:59:57 MDT Print View

More like 110 cruise missiles taking out their radar and air defense sites.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Libya on 03/19/2011 15:01:20 MDT Print View

It was between 110 and 112 cruise missiles, mostly from U.S. warships, and something from a British sub. Apparently even the Brits had some old inventory that they wanted to use up.

--B.G.--

Brad Fisher
(wufpackfn)

Locale: NC/TN/VA Mountains
Re: Re: Libya on 03/19/2011 15:07:00 MDT Print View

Jerry, let's hope it's Bosnia. UN are a bunch of wimps. They should have handled this last week without us having to lead the charge. I think they know if they drag it out long enough we will just take over. Last thing we another military campaign. Geez.

Brad

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Libya on 03/19/2011 15:13:53 MDT Print View

Another war for oil, as so many posters are fond of saying. Ha!

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: Libya on 03/19/2011 16:13:54 MDT Print View

Who says this is a war for oil?

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: Re: Re: Libya on 03/19/2011 16:29:38 MDT Print View

There implications with oil. It is no coincidence that gas prices have gone up since the Middle East has gotten more volatile

peter vacco
(fluff@inreach.com) - M

Locale: no. california
Libya, a good idea. on 03/19/2011 17:23:45 MDT Print View

it's a good thing George Bush didn't start this ... or it wouldn't be a good idea.

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Libya on 03/19/2011 17:25:14 MDT Print View

And that was the sound of Peter hitting the nail squarely on the head.

David Lutz
(davidlutz)

Locale: Bay Area
"Libya" on 03/19/2011 17:50:05 MDT Print View

Thank you, Peter.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Libya on 03/19/2011 17:50:44 MDT Print View

"Just heard on the radio that the U.S. has fired a cruise missile at a defense site in Libya.

111 more Thomahawks according to the latest reports.


"Who knows where this is going now....."

I look at it sort of like Brer' Rabbit an' de Tar Baby. Fust we whupped Brer' Omar upside de head an' got one paw stuck; den we whupped Brer' Saddam upside de head an' got 'nuther paw stuck; and now, we's gettin' ready to kick ol' Brer' Qadhafi's backside....

Edited by ouzel on 03/19/2011 18:02:05 MDT.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: "Libya" on 03/19/2011 17:50:55 MDT Print View

Who said it was a good idea?

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Libya on 03/19/2011 17:53:07 MDT Print View

"They should have handled this last week without us having to lead the charge. "

I thought France and the UK led the charge. Or is that what you mean by 'we.'

Edited by FamilyGuy on 03/19/2011 18:03:26 MDT.

Dave .
(Ramapo) - F - M
Libya on 03/19/2011 17:55:46 MDT Print View

According to the U.S. Navy Fact File (http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=2200&tid=1300&ct=2), in 1999 dollars, EACH Tomahawk cruise missile costs $569,000.

110 were fired at targets in a sovereign nation which does NOT threaten us, and with which we were NOT at war until we did this.

Total cost of these missiles fired: $62,590,000 (in 1999 dollars).

How many jobs could have been created with that money?

What about the budget deficit?

Better to defund NPR based on edited video lies and waste more than $62 million on blowing up Libyan targets and killing Libyan soldiers who believe they are defending their country, just as our sailors who fired these missiles believe they are, somehow, defending the U.S.

Congress has NOT declared war on Libya, as required by the Constitution. This is another one of Obama's wars, and shamefully, also a U.N. war.

And corporate media merely describes all this insanity as though it were normal.

The reasons to impeach Obama are growing. But that would require a Congress which obeys the law, a luxury we no longer have.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Libya, a good idea. on 03/19/2011 18:02:59 MDT Print View

"it's a good thing George Bush didn't start this ... or it wouldn't be a good idea."

By definition. ;)

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Libya, a good idea. on 03/19/2011 18:10:09 MDT Print View

"it's a good thing George Bush didn't start this ... or it wouldn't be a good idea."

Since Obama started it it's a bad idea?

Brad Fisher
(wufpackfn)

Locale: NC/TN/VA Mountains
Re: Re: Libya, a good idea. on 03/19/2011 18:16:23 MDT Print View

"I thought France and the UK led the charge. Or is that what you mean by 'we.'"

I meant France and UN talked about it last year, but US and UK handled all the bombing. According to the early reports. Wish someone else would step up in the UN and do something.

Brad

John Nausieda
(Meander) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Libya on 03/19/2011 18:23:43 MDT Print View

Just an update.
At Qaddafi Compound, a Human Shield
by DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK • March 19, 2011 Read Later
TRIPOLI, Libya — Even as the Allied intervention began, a group of foreign journalists were bused on a rare visit inside Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi1’s compound — a labyrinth of concrete barracks, fortified walls and barbed-wire designed to deter potential military coups. There, hundreds of supporters offered themselves up as human shields, cheering to newly minted dance songs about their adoration for their leader. “House by house, ally by ally,” the catchiest song went, quoting a Qaddafi speech. “Disinfect the germs from each house and each room.”
Mostly women and children, some said they were the families of soldiers in Colonel Qaddafi’s forces. They said they had come to protect Colonel Qaddafi’s compound from bombing by volunteering to be shields. “If they want to hit Muammar Qaddafi, they must hit us because we are all Muammar Qaddafi,” said Ghazad Muftah, a 52-year-old widow of a soldier from the Warfalla tribe, who said she was there with her six grown children.
In a press conference after the missile attacks, Mohamed Zweid, secretary of the Libyan version of a parliament, called the intervention “a barbaric and armed attack” and charged that it had “caused some real harm against civilians and buildings.”
“The claim that this aggression is for the protection of civilians is contradicted by what has really happened on the ground tonight,” he said. “The big number of civilians who have been hurt or harmed by this aggression tonight, the number is filling up our hospitals and ambulances are doing their best to save as many lives of civilians as possible.” But he declined to specify which civilian buildings or locations were hit.
He insisted again — despite widespread reports of continued attacks in eastern Libya2 and the siege of a major rebel-controlled city in the west — that the Qaddafi government had already declared a cease-fire. And he echoed the Qaddafi government’s continuing characterization, against all evidence, that they are fighting a small group of Al Qaeda3 terrorists.
He also confirmed reports of fighting inside Benghazi, which he attributed to an internal uprising against the rebels “by people inside the city who wanted to cleanse the city of the extremists and armed militias.”
Around midnight local time, an anti-aircraft gun was heard firing over the capital.
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References
1. ^Muammar el-Qaddafi (topics.nytimes.com) ( http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/q/muammar_el_qaddafi/index.html?inline=nyt-per )
2. ^Libya (topics.nytimes.com) ( http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/libya/index.html?inline=nyt-geo )

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: Re: Re: Libya, a good idea. on 03/19/2011 18:24:33 MDT Print View

"This is another one of Obama's wars"


and may I ask, what other wars Obama is responsible for????????????

Please explain because I am pretty confused at this moment.