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Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Long Roadless Trails ? on 03/16/2011 10:09:00 MDT Print View

I'm looking for long, high, roadless (and ATV-less) trails, greater than 50 miles. On the Colorado Trail and the CDT in Colorado, 25 miles is about it, and often much less. The PCT through parts of California is probably the best example of what I am looking for.

I don't mind an occasional road or two, but it is amazing how difficult it is to find trails that aren't crossed by highways, gravel county roads, or shredded MC/ATV tracks. From what I've seen, "on the ground" info is the only info that can do the job. Trail guides often ignore the occasional, but well used ATV track or ranch road. So, unless you've "been there done that", hold off.

Here are three examples:
The PCT from Kennedy Meadows to Tuolumne Meadows
The Wind Rivers from Green River Lakes to Sweetwater
The Grand Canyon's Beamer, Escalante, Tonto route isn't high, but IMHO is very worthwhile.

What other sections can you suggest? (And a little cross county to force a connection is OK.)

Thanks.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Long Roadless Trails ? on 03/16/2011 10:40:44 MDT Print View

Trail around Three Sisters in Oregon is maybe 47 miles - PCT on the West side, Green Lake trail on the East side

Lots of PCT sections in Washington, like South of White Pass through the Goat Rocks

Lots of trails in the Olympics - I bet you could find a 100 mile loop

The Wallowas in Northeast Oregon

Andrew F
(andrew.f) - F - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
High Sierra Trail on 03/16/2011 11:08:48 MDT Print View

The High Sierra trail across SEKI to Whitney is ~70 miles with no roads. One of my all-time favorite trips.

Andrew

Chris Morgan
(ChrisMorgan) - F

Locale: Southern Oregon
Re: Re: Long Roadless Trails ? on 03/16/2011 11:35:32 MDT Print View

What about the Bob?

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Long Roadless Trails ? on 03/16/2011 11:48:59 MDT Print View

Check out the Pasayten Wilderness in north Washington.

http://www.wilderness.net/index.cfm?fuse=NWPS&sec=wildView&wname=Pasayten%20Wilderness

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Long Roadless Trails ? on 03/16/2011 17:48:51 MDT Print View

"I'm looking for long, high, roadless (and ATV-less) trails, greater than 50 miles."

1) The High Sierra Trail to the Kern Canyon Trail to the John Muir connector trail to the JMT to Roads End in KCNP.

1) Mineral King to the Kern Canyon Trail over Franklin Pass and down Rattlesnake Creek. From there to Lake South America and then use two short connecting trails (see Mt Whitney 15' map) to the JMT and head north to Roads End in KCNP. This route will take you through the heart of the Kern River/Upper Kern Basin, which is some of the mos magnificent country in the Sierra. Lots of opportunities for beautiful one/two day side trips(Milestone Basin, Thunder Basin). Well over 50 miles. It could be done in 5-6 days if you wanted to push it, but I'd recommend 8-9 days to leave time for really enjoying the experience. There are also a couple of neat variations that involve off trail travel. PM me if interested.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Long Roadless Trails ? on 03/16/2011 19:18:11 MDT Print View

Tom,
I have a couple of your routes bookmarked.

This is indeed a great area amenable to building long loops.

Thanks.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: Long Roadless Trails ? on 03/16/2011 20:18:02 MDT Print View

"This is indeed a great area amenable to building long loops."

Very much so, Greg. Somehow I overlooked the possibility that you might want to do a loop. If you have gone as far as bookmarking the routes and have the relevant maps, you'll have an easy time coming up with a number of loops. You really can't go wrong down there. It is my favorite part of the Sierra, hands down. You'll have a great time if you end up going there. Let me know if you need any info that isn't in the books or online; I know the area pretty well.

Dirk Rabdau
(dirk9827) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Tom, thanks for that tip on 03/17/2011 01:23:32 MDT Print View

I was trying to figure out a place for a next Sierra hike, that sounds like a real winner.

Robert Cowman
(rcowman) - F

Locale: Canadian Rockies
Canada on 03/17/2011 01:28:53 MDT Print View

Canada, you can go hundreds of KM on trails with no roads/ATV tracks in the parks up here. with no people on them. And u don't need a bear canister.

Edited by rcowman on 03/17/2011 01:29:35 MDT.

Steve S
(idahosteve) - F

Locale: Idaho
Re: Long Roadless Trails ? on 03/17/2011 07:56:14 MDT Print View

You might look into the Frank Church Wilderness in Idaho.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Tom, thanks for that tip on 03/17/2011 15:58:59 MDT Print View

"I was trying to figure out a place for a next Sierra hike, that sounds like a real winner."

Anytime, Dirk.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Long Roadless Trails ? on 03/17/2011 16:27:56 MDT Print View

"1) Mineral King to the Kern Canyon Trail over Franklin Pass and down Rattlesnake Creek. From there to Lake South America and then use two short connecting trails (see Mt Whitney 15' map) to the JMT and head north to Roads End in KCNP. This route will take you through the heart of the Kern River/Upper Kern Basin, which is some of the mos magnificent country in the Sierra. Lots of opportunities for beautiful one/two day side trips(Milestone Basin, Thunder Basin). Well over 50 miles. It could be done in 5-6 days if you wanted to push it, but I'd recommend 8-9 days to leave time for really enjoying the experience. There are also a couple of neat variations that involve off trail travel. PM me if interested."

Tom's suggestion is similar to the route that I plotted out for myself for this summer. One variation is to go north past Lake South America and over Harrison Pass to East Lake to Bubbs Creek. The major problem is one of transportation back to Mineral King. Kaweah Gap, Colby Pass, and all of the rest of the high spots in that vicinity have fabulous views.

--B.G.--

Mark Olah
(gorgar3141)

Locale: New Mexico
Long Roadless Trails ? on 04/03/2011 01:16:51 MDT Print View

Since you are in Colorado, how about a traverse of the Weminuche wilderness. Probably 110+ miles from Wolf Creek Pass to Vallecito Creek TH near Durango. You can add on another 80 miles or so if you start at Cumbres pass and do the CDT through the S. San Juan Wilderness first. Then you would have to cross US160 @ wolf creek, but you could just close your eyes and run, and your back in the wilderness. Also the Gila wilderness in NM could swallow a 2-week trip with no road crossings if planned correctly.