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Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: Hiking Through Hyperbole: A Walk in the Clouds on 02/16/2011 12:02:01 MST Print View

+1

Sean Nordeen
(Miner) - F

Locale: SoCAL
Washington on 02/16/2011 12:51:08 MST Print View

Thanks for sharing your PCT adventure with us. It was well written and entertaining to read. I really enjoyed your sharing it with us. When I was hiking through the Goat Rocks, I met some former thru-hikers who were doing some section hiking. Like you they had missed many great views due to rain and had come back out to see what they had missed. They were very happy that they had done so. I hope you'll get a chance to do so when its clear.

For my own PCT hike, Washington (except for the first few days) was the most scenic trail after the High Sierra. It's only tough due to a "flat" Oregon preceeding it had robbed me of some of the strength used for tough climbs since my muscles had thought I was done with using them. Some friends who finished 2weeks ahead of me had alot of rain, but I had almost no rain as I hiked through Washington until I encountered some snow at the every end. So it can be all about luck as some hike in a window of clear weather while others in a window of clouds and rain. The only view I missed was a cloud covered Knife's Edge in the Goat Rocks.

If I ever go out to do a section of the PCT again, Washington is near the top of my list. Grazing on fresh berries, seeing the bright red colors of the bushes covering the hillsides in mid to late September, the steep mountains and tall volcanoes in the distance was hard to beat on my own thru-hike.

Edited by Miner on 02/16/2011 12:58:28 MST.

Ryan Linn
(ryan.c.linn)

Locale: Maine!
Re: All NOBO PCT thru-hikes are ... on 02/16/2011 20:32:03 MST Print View

Interesting point, Brian. I only heard stories about how sunny and clear Washington usually is (and the few times I'd been there already were practically cloudless), so I felt at the time like I was getting a raw deal there. But I guess there are only three ways for the weather to be: nice, bad, or somewhere in between.

About the river crossings in Washington: all the bridges were in place except the Suiattle, which was the notorious log. No problem at all, as far as I saw. The log was nothing to worry about, which seemed to be the general consensus among hikers.

I definitely had a strict dedication to my journal, because I actually go back to my journals sometimes. Someone who did even better was one of my hiking pals Tom Jamrog, whose trailjournals account was hugely popular last summer. I hear he'll be on the CDT in 2013. I'd love to join him then, but it will take a miracle of planning for me to get out there. I'll see what I can do :)

Edited by ryan.c.linn on 02/16/2011 20:32:52 MST.

Maxine Weyant
(Maxine) - MLife
re: gaiters on 02/17/2011 03:18:31 MST Print View

I'm wondering if you use your gaiters every day or how you decide when to use them? (Desert, Sierra snow, rain, volcanic dust, etc.)

I have used gaiters on and off for many years. Great in snow obviously, but not the shortie gaiters. But I get more blisters when my feet sweat and gaiters make them sweat more, esp. the Gore-tex kind. I also get more blisters when there's a bunch of grit in my shoes. I use trail running shoes, mostly vasque blur the last 3 years. This last year I switched to dirty girl gaiters. They seem cooler and keep grit out of my shoes in the dustier parts, but I scuffed holes through the inner (medial) sides of them after 3-4 weeks and they were kind of worthless in the rain.

PS--met your friend Tangent in central OR, prob. leap-frogged both of you in central WA. Dys-feng shui-nal (section hiker)

Ryan Linn
(ryan.c.linn)

Locale: Maine!
Re: re: gaiters on 02/17/2011 05:15:58 MST Print View

Hey Maxine,

Unless I'm snowshoeing, I only use dirtygirl gaiters, and I've been using them daily for a couple years now (when hiking, I mean... not just everyday use). You basically said it right there: they keep the twigs and pebbles and dirt out of the sneakers but are otherwise light enough to be barely noticeable. Being useless against rain is kind of the point. Waterproof gaiters with non-waterproof sneakers doesn't really make any sense. The lycra of the dirtygirls dries quickly, and is nice and breathable.

I usually get a month or two of constant use out of them before they break down, which is fine by me. They were $17 per pair last time I ordered them, so it's not a huge hit to get two or three pairs per summer.

Carol Brown
(brownwetdog) - M

Locale: Idaho
Fabulous Series! on 02/19/2011 18:08:25 MST Print View

Thanks so much for writing about your PCT adventures here on BPL. You are an excellent writer - I was hooked from the first installment. Carol

Gustav Bostrom
(gusbo) - MLife

Locale: Scandinavia
Maybe a warmer tent? on 02/20/2011 15:14:07 MST Print View

These articles were truly excellent. Among the best I've read on bpl.

The weather in Washington seemed pretty close to what you can get in Sweden sometimes. Very few people use tarp tents here. Considering your experiences would you you choose a different tent, say a 500 g heavier double-wall one, if you were to choose again ?
Would the added comfort be worth the weight difference?

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Hiking Through Hyperbole: A Walk in the Clouds on 02/21/2011 15:45:48 MST Print View

Ryan, I hope you come back to Washington (maybe in August) so you can see it!

Dirk Rabdau
(dirk9827) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Great series on 02/26/2011 16:00:11 MST Print View

I agree with Miner - of all the sections on the PCT I loved - and there were many - I'd put Washington stretch from say from Stevens Pass north up with the very best sections of trail. Heck the Goat Rocks are great as well. But the stretch from Stevens Pass is some of the most beautiful on the trail, with sweeping mountain vistas and deep glacier-cut valleys. It's a shame it was so rainy last year - I really didn't get to go out and enjoy it much because most of the Cascades were socked in the clouds.

But that's the great thing about the northern stretches of the PCT - it doesn't actually follow the Pacific Crest in the truest sense...It begins to jog east, which keeps it considerably drier than if you were hiking in a beeline towards Mt. Baker, for instance.

Terrific series. I really enjoyed your writing style. Please come back and do Washington during a good summer, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised by how nice it can be.

Dirk

Edited by dirk9827 on 02/26/2011 17:23:31 MST.

Ryan Linn
(ryan.c.linn)

Locale: Maine!
Re: Maybe a warmer tent? on 02/28/2011 13:09:12 MST Print View

Good question, Gustav. I haven't used a double-wall tent in a really long time, so I doubt I would have gone with one for Washington. My other shelter is a rectangular tarp, which is really nice for camping in the rain, since I can sit around and cook in the shelter, and stay very dry. There wasn't always enough room for that sort of thing though. I guess it comes down to whatever you're most comfortable with.

Mary and Dirk-- I do really want to come back to Washington sometime. I spent a month in Packwood and a month in Concrete several years ago, with much better weather, so I know how nice it can be. I'll be back, I hope!

Jason Hollinger
(the.tick) - F
no two thru-hikes the same? on 03/01/2011 17:35:08 MST Print View

> Reading accounts about other people's thru-hikes generally leaves
> me with the sense that all NOBO PCT thru-hikes are alike.
> [earlier comment by Brian Lewis]

Brian's probably right: there are fundamentals that are the same in each thru-hike -- challenge, freedom, magic, all that good stuff. But reading these awesome articles made me appreciate how *different* each hike is! I can finally understand why any fool would want to do a thru-hike more than once. (Not saying I'm convinced yet, but at least I'm starting to get it...)

Tangent and I had some parts easier, some parts harder -- the Sierras were *totally* different in '97 (yikes, way better our year)... but so was Washington! Trail magic has changed so much in the last 13 years. The people you meet are... well, they're all over the spectrum, and just leave it at that. No two alike.

Love the way you cut through the "hyperbole". Let the magic show through just the straight facts. No need to *tell* us it was amazing; you couldn't hide it if you tried!

(And thanks, Guthook, for making me feel welcome on the trail despite just being out for the last half of Washington!)

Dana Sherry
(dsherry) - M

Locale: Mi Upper Peninsula
story on 03/02/2011 19:11:06 MST Print View

Thanks for the thru hike report- I think this tells the experience quite well! Loved sharing in the adventure, hardship and perseverance.

Ed Theisen
(OldEd) - F
Ursack problem vs wire mesh food bag on 03/12/2011 08:12:50 MST Print View

Great diary of the trip Ryan. Interesting reading. Brings back many memories of a trek I did in '07. Cold and wet, it sounds too familiar. On your food storage topic, like you I have had a Ursack food bag that failed to mice. I have switched to a wire mesh rodent proof Grubpack. Have used it now since 2009 without problems. The mice are more consistently intrusive and damaging than any other animal I run in to. Best of luck to you.

Edited by OldEd on 03/12/2011 08:17:00 MST.

Rakesh Malik
(Tamerlin)

Locale: Cascadia
Re: Re: Maybe a warmer tent? on 03/12/2011 09:30:29 MST Print View

"Mary and Dirk-- I do really want to come back to Washington sometime. I spent a month in Packwood and a month in Concrete several years ago, with much better weather, so I know how nice it can be. I'll be back, I hope!"

It'll be worth returning to! I've only been living in Washington for a few years, but I'm already hooked. You had the misfortune of reaching Washington as El Nino was setting in, leading to the worse than usual weather that you experienced. Usually the views of Mount Rainier don't vanish until later in the year, but my first here here it was several weeks before I got to see The Mountain!

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Re: Hiking Through Hyperbole: A Walk in the Clouds on 06/16/2011 17:23:46 MDT Print View

Great series of articles.

Welcome to the wet corner of the continent! This Spring has been exceptionally wet and cold. Your experiences on the PCT match much of my lifetime spent on the wet side of the Cascades. The condensation and soggy down is what I deal with any time I hike.

When it is clear and warm, the views are incredible, but you still have the morning dew and wet brush to deal with. Last week at Barclay Lake, at the base of Mount Baring (there is a 6100' peak in the clouds):

Barclay Lake, near Mt. Baring, Washington June 10, 2011

Edited by dwambaugh on 06/16/2011 17:25:18 MDT.