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Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/01/2006 22:06:58 MDT Print View

I'm looking for a full-zip, UL down jacket with hand pockets that -- together with a windproof shell jacket -- will keep an average guy warm to 30F when at rest. MontBell has one weighing just 6.7 oz -- but I don't really care for its "checker board" look. Any other recommendations?

Edited by ben2world on 10/02/2006 01:49:25 MDT.

Jeroen Wesselman
(jeroenman) - F

Locale: Europe
Re: Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/02/2006 08:05:16 MDT Print View

Western Mountaineering Flight Jacket for a full zip jacket. Not cheap but satisfaction and big smile garantied.
if you are willing to consider a pull over version, the Nunatak Shaka (Plus)is the best out there; just my opinion

Diana L
(mysticmoose) - F

Locale: Great Lakes region
Re: Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/02/2006 09:38:25 MDT Print View

If you prefer the diamond pattern over the checkerboard, you could always order the women's version...!

Benjamin Smith
(bugbomb) - F - M

Locale: South Texas
Re: Re: Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/02/2006 10:14:57 MDT Print View

http://gearx.com/product_info.php?products_id=480

Mountainsmith Super Down Jacket

It weighs about 14 oz, so it's in a whole different weight category than the MB stuff. It is very warm, boasts baffled construction, and would definitely keep me warm standing around to 30. I'm a slim guy at 5' 11" and 150#. The medium fits perfectly - while I have an impressive "ape index," the arms are plenty long enough.

Edited by bugbomb on 10/02/2006 17:26:04 MDT.

Nathan V
(Junk) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lake State
Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/02/2006 16:14:44 MDT Print View

I have a Feathered Friends Hyperion jacket with Epic shell fabric, it's wind proof, quite warm, weighs 11 oz, but isn't cheap.

larry savage
(pyeyo) - F

Locale: pacific northwest
Re: Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/02/2006 17:26:30 MDT Print View

The Western Mtn. flight mentioned back a bit weighs 10oz./med,11oz./lg. Patagonia's down sweater weighs 9 oz...just about the lightest thing in down is Western's flash vest at 3.5oz. The problem arises when you try to compare fill weights and loft of each jacket. Some of these makers just aren't saying how much is in their product. The Montbell inner jacket you're looking at has a fill of 2 oz. Go-lite's cumulus weighs 12 oz. but has more then twice the fill at 5.36 oz.
Prolite has the Montbell 2005 jacket on sale at $99.98 and their scale says it weighs 7.9 oz. Good luck.

Richard Nisley
(richard295) - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/02/2006 18:41:40 MDT Print View

For sitting in 30F weather with a wind shell over the insulation, you will need about .7" of single layer loft.

In addition to other poster's fine recommendations, the Patagonia Down Sweater will also satisfy your criteria.

Ryan Corder
(demo) - MLife

Locale: Arkansan in Seattle
Re: Re: Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/02/2006 20:16:24 MDT Print View

buying the women's version is a good suggestion. While I personally own the UL Thermawrap vest (the synthetic version), my wife has the UL down jacket...fits me just fine and is very light.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/02/2006 21:33:51 MDT Print View

Thanks, everyone for your suggestions! More things for me to think about...

larry savage
(pyeyo) - F

Locale: pacific northwest
Re: Re: Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/10/2006 20:52:23 MDT Print View

Old threads never die...just about the nicest down product out there is the nunatak skaha with or without the hood.

Jason Burnett
(jason@jnj.org) - F
Re: Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/12/2006 08:04:12 MDT Print View

I actually have a size large Mont Bell UL Down Inner Jacket that's now too big for me (lost a bunch of weight).

I took it on one trip. If you're interested, I'll make you a nice deal so I can buy another one in my size.

Shoot me an email.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: Looking for a UL Down Jacket on 10/12/2006 08:46:43 MDT Print View

Hi Jason:

I love deals, but sorry, I wear a size Medium...

Bill Law
(williamlaw) - M

Locale: SF Bay Area
UL down jacket on 10/12/2006 16:44:51 MDT Print View

I'm on the lookout to buy one of these, also. One I've run across in a few places is the Moonstone Lucid.

Moonstone's site seems to be down so I can't look up the specs. I see one place selling it which lists the size M at 10.5 oz (they have only size S, but at $99!).

That's at http://www.modernmountainman.com/catalog.php?type=product&id=64171

Joseph Rothstein
(joe_r) - F
Moonstone Lucid down jacket on 10/12/2006 17:34:59 MDT Print View

Moonstone's site is down because Moonstone is gone. I read somewhere that they were bought buy Columbia and then eliminated (possibly due to the overlap with the Mountain Hardwear line?). You might still be able to find the Lucid. If you're in Seattle, try Second Ascent. I saw a few Lucid jackets there for $100 recently.

As for the jacket itself, I have it and it's nice. Size large is just over 11 oz. Let me know if you want any more info on it, although I've barely used it because I so rarely need something that warm. The Montbell jackets also look good, and the old models of the Inner Down and UL Inner Down jackets are on sale at Montbell's outlet site for about $110.

Bill Law
(williamlaw) - M

Locale: SF Bay Area
Moonstone on 10/13/2006 09:45:11 MDT Print View

I hadn't heard of Moonstone's demise. It sounds like one might find the Lucid at closeout prices, now.

How does the Lucid compare to the WM Flight jacket in terms of insulation value? The Lucid is 800+ fill power down but I can't find any reports on what the fill weight is. It looks more like the Montbell jacket, though.

Joseph Rothstein
(joe_r) - F
Re: Moonstone on 10/13/2006 14:11:30 MDT Print View

I expect that almost anything from Moonstone should be heavily discounted, if you can find it.

I've seen the Western Mountaineering Flight once, and it looked warmer (higher loft) than the Lucid. If you're considering jackets in the Flight's price range, check out the Feathered Friends Hyperion as well. It looks like it has a lot of warmth for it's weight, and you can choose the shell fabric.

Carol Crooker
(cmcrooker) - MLife

Locale: Desert Southwest, USA
UL Down Inner - medium on 10/14/2006 21:09:47 MDT Print View

Hey Benjamin,
I'll sell you the UL down inner jacket size medium (reviewed here) for $30 plus $5 shipping. (I have an older version in small that weighs a little less and I don't REALLY need two :) The medium is in great shape.

Edited by cmcrooker on 10/14/2006 21:10:52 MDT.

Joseph Rothstein
(joe_r) - F
Re: UL Down Inner - medium on 10/14/2006 22:18:30 MDT Print View

Carol, I might be interested in buying the jacket if Benjamin doesn't want it.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: UL Down Inner - medium on 10/14/2006 22:49:42 MDT Print View

Hi Carol:

Thanks for the offer... but I am looking for something with a full zipper, rather than plastic snap buttons.

Edited by ben2world on 10/15/2006 17:46:37 MDT.

First Last
(snusmumriken) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
Re: UL Down Inner on 10/15/2006 20:04:23 MDT Print View

Or if Joseph doesn't want it _ I'd love it!