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Jeremy Price
(TacomaJPP) - F

Locale: Great Smoky Mountains
Best 0 Bag for the Money? on 01/28/2011 19:17:22 MST Print View

I've used the search function and really couldn't find any threads detailing this subject. I really like to winter backpack. In my region around the Great Smoky Mountains, we can see temps in the single digits and my other favorite spot Big South Fork, the average winter nighttime temps are in the teens.

I currently have a 20 degree synthetic bag. However, I'm really wanting to get a zero degree bag to make my sleepy time a little more comfy. I spend 6-10 nights out per year in these temps. I don't mind spending in the low $200's for a bag....

Suggestions, thoughts, comments....would be appreciated. TIA.

Matthew Marasco
(BabyMatty) - F

Locale: Western/Central PA, Adirondacks
re: on 01/28/2011 20:14:08 MST Print View

Well I don't think you're going to find anything with 800+ fp down in that price range, at least not if you're looking to buy a brand new bag at full-retail. Your best bet would be to keep an eye out on the gear swap forum here, and maybe check geartrade.com, and always keep a close eye on steep and cheap. Hope this helps.

William Brown
(MatthewBrown) - F

Locale: Blue Ridge Mtns
Marmot on 01/28/2011 20:21:15 MST Print View

I've heard good things about the Marmot "Never Summer" 0 degree bag. It's only 600FP. But if it keeps you warm on the cheap, what the heck. Altrec has them on sale for $229 free shipping.

Jeremy Price
(TacomaJPP) - F

Locale: Great Smoky Mountains
Re: Marmot on 01/28/2011 20:43:25 MST Print View

I've been looking at that one. Thanks.

Rakesh Malik
(Tamerlin)

Locale: Cascadia
Maybe a 15 degree + clothing? on 01/28/2011 20:50:50 MST Print View

$200 for a higher end bag might be a bit of a stretch. Even the 15-degree Marmot Helium that I'm selling on gear swap (http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=41827&skip_to_post=358517#358517) retails for around $350. Used, however, you might be able to get a pretty good deal. Or maybe you can look at a 15 degree bag and plan on wearing some warm clothing in it?

stephan q
(khumbukat) - F
Bag shopping on 01/28/2011 21:12:31 MST Print View

Don't forget to check craigslist and yard sales. I found an as new FF Peregrine at a yard sale priced at $150. I was so excited that I didn't even try to bargain with the seller.

stephan

Andy F
(AndyF) - M
Re: Marmot on 01/29/2011 01:45:29 MST Print View

I have a Marmot Never Summer 0 degree bag--great bag for the price. Weight is close to 4 lbs.

Richard Rini
(rarini) - MLife

Locale: Southeast
It will be hard on 01/29/2011 05:27:39 MST Print View

I have to agree with the group, it's going to be difficult to find a zero bag in the low 200's( good quality at least). I bought a Montbel down spiral on a great sale and I believe I paid 280, not sure on that. I do a lot of back packing in the Smokys as well, we were just out there in mid December. Night time temps were in the low teens. I was nice and warm! Try and save a bit more if you can or continue to search, you might find a great deal.

tommy d
(vinovampire) - F
mountain light on 01/29/2011 06:10:01 MST Print View

EMS MOUNTAIN LIGHT 0° SLEEPING BAG, REGULAR
Regular Price: $339.00 SALE $237.30

http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3981927&lmdn=Brand&cp=3677338.3737362.3705267

I have a ML 20 and -20. They're good bags at a great prices.

Ryan Christman
(radio_guy) - MLife

Locale: Midwest U.S.
Golite and Marmot on 01/29/2011 07:06:40 MST Print View

Golite has that 40% off coupon floating around, check out the gear deals area. They have a 0 degree F 800 fill bag that is normally $500 but is $300 with the coupon. I am considering picking up one myself.

Bent Gate Mountaineering has the 0*F Marmot Lithium on clearance for $330, regularly $459.

That may be a little out of your price range but I have found that you really get what you pay for in higher end sleeping bags and it is worth being your most expensive piece of gear.

Steve Scarborough
(zehnmm) - F

Locale: southern New Mexico
Best 0 Bag for the Money on 01/29/2011 07:51:54 MST Print View

I agree with other posts that getting one for $200 will be difficult.

Found a Mountain Hardwear Phantom 15 degree bag in like-new condition off of Ebay for $175 for my wife. Not zero, but still a high value bag for a good price.

But, some 12 years ago, I bought a Feathered Friends Lark, which I ordered overfilled to achieve about 0 degrees. It weighs 47 oz. in the stuff sack. Now such a bag will cost you over $400. But, I will say that purchase has proven, for me, to be one of the best that I have ever made in my life. Today, it still has about the same amount of loft as new and still is a great bag after all the years.

Don Selesky
(backslacker) - M
Re: Best 0 Bag for the Money? on 01/29/2011 08:03:08 MST Print View

If money is more important than weight, consider a synthetic bag. MontBell has a synthetic 0F bag for under $200, at 4.5 pounds, though.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
used on 01/29/2011 11:56:58 MST Print View

look for used, I picked up a Marmot Lithium used for a very good price (not quite $200 good though :) )

down bags (w/ reasonable care) can last a very (very) long time

Jeremy Price
(TacomaJPP) - F

Locale: Great Smoky Mountains
Save a little longer on 01/29/2011 11:59:19 MST Print View

Thanks all for the advice. I think I will suffer the rest of the cold season in my 20 degree bag and just save some more for a nicer/higher quality bag for next year.

Joshua Gray
(coastalhiker) - MLife
REI Halo on 01/29/2011 18:10:16 MST Print View

I would consider the REI Halo. It is 750-fill and 44oz and is rated for 10deg. It retails for ~$300 and I'm sure you could easily get one for around $225.

stephan q
(khumbukat) - F
0 degree bags on 01/29/2011 19:16:18 MST Print View

The other consideration, besides price, is size. Don't buy a bag for price you like, only to find it's the wrong size for you. Too big, and you can't warm it up. Too small, and any insulation you bring in with you, will not loft. I made that mistake first time out. Find your size 1st, and then invest with confidence. Nothing like a great bag to inspire you to explore.

PS- 800+ fill is worth the price.

stephan

Edited by khumbukat on 01/29/2011 19:39:55 MST.

John Nausieda
(Meander) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Best 0 Bag for the Money on 01/29/2011 19:37:22 MST Print View

If you have more time than money research the fringes including Women's bags that aren't very long. In my case I found a Sierra Designs Myst great bag which had been bought on closeout and never used by the tallish buyer.I was the sole bidder. Ebay and other forums after all including BPL and Craig's list are gear time machines if you have the time.

Ken Bennett
(ken_bennett) - F

Locale: southeastern usa
Re: Best 0 Bag for the Money? on 01/30/2011 17:32:06 MST Print View

I hike in the NC mountains, and imho the best bag for the money is the Western Mountaineering Antelope. Yes, it's over $400, though I got mine on a 40% off clearance at my local outfitter (sorry!).

Joseph Wright
(hatchmaster) - F

Locale: The Rockies
0 Degree Bag on 01/31/2011 13:32:28 MST Print View

Kelty Cosmic Down Zero Degree

http://www.kelty.com/p-410-cosmic-down-0.aspx

3 lbs 11 oz

$160

Best bang for the buck I have found.

James Castleberry
(Winterland76)
Best 0 Degree Bag for the money on 01/31/2011 13:45:20 MST Print View

You will need to time it right with Sierra Trading Post Deal Flyer, and emphasis on "for the money."
STD has a Sierra Designs -5 BTU 800-fill bag for $298.
DealFlyer deals vary, but yesterday's offer was 30% off plus free shipping, which puts it in the low 200 price range. Personally, I think it's a great deal, but I already have a nice Golite winter bag.
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/,3236D_Sierra-Designs-5-F-BTU-Sleeping-Bag-800-Fill-Power-Down-Mummy.html