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Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
The Stateless Society, WPB Cuben Mitts with 3-layer eVent Palms, limited availability. on 01/04/2011 19:42:24 MST Print View

Here we go.


Fresh from the Society, prototype style. I'm limiting these to 6 pairs total for the first run. Here's a chance to own one of the first items made with the waterproof-breathable cuben. I've done very limited testing, so there's no performance warranty expressed or implied for the fabric. No refunds, but I will exchange if the sizing doesn't work out or if there's any build flaw.


CTB1B3-1.0 for the entire back, 3-layer eVent for the palms. Don't ask me to sell you any fabric, because I can't. I have very limited amounts of each. I'll offer these up in 3 sizes, S/M/L.

The cuben has a green tinge, but it's barely noticeable in this version of the fabric, supposedly Cubic is working on the coloring issue.

Anecdotally the breathability seems very good. I wore one mitt around the shop for half an hour while working today, and on the other hand, the original mock up I made out of silnylon. The sil hand was hot and soakey, the other was fine. Seems to be the same as the full eVent mitts I have, but YMMV.


Size small weighed 16g per pair before seam sealing with SeamGrip. I imagine the larges will weigh in around 20-22g per pair.

French seamed for durability.

Price: $65 shipped. I'll seam-grip them for you, but no guarantees on the beauty factor of the job. If you prefer to do it yourself, just let me know.


WPB Mitts 1
WPB Mitts 2
WPB Mitts 3

Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
one pair gone already on 01/04/2011 20:01:33 MST Print View

5 left.

John McAlpine
(HairlessApe) - M

Locale: PNW
I'll take the second pair on 01/04/2011 20:49:04 MST Print View

PM me to get you the money. THANKS

Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
Re: The Stateless Society, WPB Cuben Mitts with 3-layer eVent Palms, limited availability. on 01/05/2011 07:48:04 MST Print View

I'll be at the studio all day with no internet access, so anybody that wants one of the remaining 4 pair, just post here, and paypal javan.dempsey "at" gmail.com


I can make these in batches, so I should have them all out by the end of next week.

Robert Carver
(Rcarver) - MLife

Locale: Southeast TN
I'll take a pair. on 01/05/2011 08:01:57 MST Print View

sending money.

Tony Fleming
(TonyFleming) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
WPB Mittens on 01/05/2011 09:08:16 MST Print View

PM sent.

Tony

Edited by TonyFleming on 01/05/2011 09:29:43 MST.

jonathan lorenz
(punkture) - F

Locale: Northern California
Pm sent on 01/05/2011 11:11:20 MST Print View

I'll take a pair

. .
(biointegra) - MLife

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: The Stateless Society, WPB Cuben Mitts with 3-layer eVent Palms, limited availability. on 01/05/2011 15:57:00 MST Print View

Javan, is this fabric less translucent than standard cuben?

Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
Re: Re: The Stateless Society, WPB Cuben Mitts with 3-layer eVent Palms, limited availability. on 01/05/2011 18:25:47 MST Print View

Aaron,

Yes, it's milky with a green tinge, about as translucent as tyvek. i.e. it would allow diffuse light through it, but it's not opaque at all.

Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
Re: Re: Re: The Stateless Society, WPB Cuben Mitts with 3-layer eVent Palms, limited availability. on 01/05/2011 18:27:33 MST Print View

BTW, all of this batch are SOLD.



I'll try to offer another run in a couple of weeks.

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
The Stateless Society, WPB Cuben Mitts with 3-layer eVent Palms, limited availability on 01/05/2011 20:30:08 MST Print View

Thank goodness! My resistance was weakening.

josh wagner
(StainlessSteel) - F
:o on 01/05/2011 20:42:23 MST Print View

those look really sharp javon... you seem like a great cottage gear guy from everythign i've seen on you on this forum and others. i wish you luck on your enterprise. where'd you come up with the name of your company?

Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
Re: :o on 01/05/2011 20:50:56 MST Print View

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_society


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_nation


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statelessness





My ideology is likely outside the realm of relevance to this forum.


Cheers!

Edited by jdempsey on 01/05/2011 20:54:35 MST.

Dan Durston
(dandydan)

Locale: Cascadia
WP/B Cuben on 01/05/2011 22:25:45 MST Print View

Any interest in sharing how much this wp/b cuben weighs per yd? This material seems to have so much potential.

Edited by dandydan on 01/05/2011 22:26:17 MST.

Brandon Sanchez
(dharmabumpkin) - F

Locale: San Gabriel Mtns
The Stateless Society, WPB Cuben Mitts with 3-layer eVent Palms, limited availability. on 01/05/2011 22:34:00 MST Print View

Javan, don't go touting your political beliefs (as obvious as they might be), someone might be put off. Not me, for the record. Although I do get a chuckle out of the capitalistic nature of your enterprise ;) Maybe you should advertise your stuff on squattheplanet.com so anarchists can ride the rails in all their UL glory.

Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
Re: The Stateless Society, WPB Cuben Mitts with 3-layer eVent Palms, limited availability. on 01/06/2011 08:22:54 MST Print View

Brandon, it is of course, ironic. Although personally I only take exception with capitalism as it transcends to corporatism. On a small scale, it's just a name for individual progress through inter-personal collaboration. Only the illusory currency aspect makes it so disassociate. I'll happily barter for the record.

As to my politics, I'm anti-political entirely, my thoughts and the social scheme don't mesh. I've got no desire to push my ideas on anybody, they're mine and I've got no need to validate them through others, but I definitely get what you're saying. ;)



Ultimately the name stands just to say that "I'm thinking about things differently" and hopefully my products will eventually reflect that. I want them to be tools for personal liberation, individually, not nationally.

That's how the "Pack Less. Be More." resonates with me.


edit: spelling.

Edited by jdempsey on 01/06/2011 08:39:18 MST.

Steven Evans
(Steve_Evans) - MLife

Locale: Canada
Re: WP/B Cuben on 01/06/2011 09:00:48 MST Print View

Any interest in sharing how much this wp/b cuben weighs per yd?

I think it varies slightly for each production run, but the latest CTB1B3-1.0 is 1.4oz/yd^2.

Javan Dempsey
(jdempsey)

Locale: The-Stateless-Society
Re: Re: WP/B Cuben on 01/06/2011 09:33:32 MST Print View

Here's the info I was given:

1. CTB1B3-1.0, more durable as a standalone laminate. 48.3g/m^2
2. CTB1B3-1.0/NF, not as durable but could work well if you intend to use another liner (for jackets, etc). 30.6g/m^2"


The mitts use number 1.

Dan Durston
(dandydan)

Locale: Cascadia
WP/B Cuben on 01/06/2011 09:52:42 MST Print View

Thanks guys. This is really neat stuff. I can't wait to see where this material winds up. Eventually it could be everywhere....rain gear, tents, bivys etc.

Aaron Reichow
(areichow)

Locale: Northern Minnesota
Re: WP/B Cuben on 01/06/2011 15:56:20 MST Print View

Is there any more info on this kind of Cuben? There aren't any other mentions of CTB1B3 as a form of Cuben other than this thread, which seems odd. Is the Cuben itself supposed to be breathable, or just the eVent? I've seen mentions of breathable Cuben elsewhere here, but never with any details or specs... What's the deal?