thanks Mike, i knew i must have understood that wrong.. i have seen the FF in person. they look nice. i own GF inner and outer shells. they work fine around the house - i have not yet used the shell in the woods. Im sure it would hold up well, its made of dynemma iirc.
as if things arent confusing enough, i hear WM is going to introduce a newer, lighter version of their down socks this year.