Hennesy Hammock
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Shelly Skye
(shelly) - F
Hennesy Hammock on 03/18/2005 17:44:38 MST Print View

Hello all. I have a HH but need to do something about insulation below. I have considered making something myself but was just looking on HH website and see they have a new insulation package. Does anyone know how well they insulate? By that I mean, what temp. rating would it have? I can't find any data on their website. Thanks for any information you might have.
Shelly

Richard Nisley
(richard295) - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
50 Degree Hennessy Insulation on 03/18/2005 19:05:20 MST Print View

The only solutions that works for most people are to add a tapered, 28" wide at shoulders and 18" at the feet, foam pad under your sleeping bag or to attach an insulation blanket comprised of down or synthetic to the bottom. The thickness of the pad or the under insulation is dependent on the temperature you need to achieve. Loft equates to temperature rating. If you want a quilt capable of keeping you comfortable in sub-freezing temperatures you better be in the 2.5” loft range. The equivalent foam padding would need to be approximately 1" thick. Insulation blankets are available from multiple vendors.

Backpack Gear Test started a study on the Hennessy Super Shelter. 3 people published their initial and field reports. The results were mixed with one of the testers claiming that the system only lowered the allowable temperature to about 50 degrees. The manufacturer then asked that the test be started over with additional items added to the system to provide warmth.

The Backpack Gear test statement was, "This test is currently suspended. The testers didn't receive the entire system due to an oversight, and the reports as they exist may not (and probably do not) accurately represent the Super Shelter system. The following was received from Tom Hennessy by way of explanation. We are working to resolve this difficulty. The test may have to be redone after the rest of the items are received. We apologize for any inconvenience to our readers.”

Shane Steinkamp
BGT Moderator

The testers didn't receive an important part of their winter testing gear which we inadvertently did not ship. Please ask the testers not to resume testing until they receive the missing parts.

We're sending two different accessory pads to add more insulating materials where it's needed most:

1/ Torso Pad - placed on top of the underpad to double the thickness of the insulation on the torso.
2/ Kidney Pad - placed on top or under the torso pad right on the kidney area to triple insulation where most people get chilled first.

Both torso and kidney pads do not need attachment points because two pieces of open cell foam are very grippy and do not shift when placed in position. When installing the torso pad and kidney pad, we also suggest experimenting by layering a space blanket between the pads.

Although not supplied with the cold weather system, at temperatures below 50 degrees depending on the individuals' sleeping gear and metabolism, the space blanket is an important part of the system.

The space blanket should be placed on top of the foam pads to keep the moisture barrier on the warm side of the insulation to minimize condensation.

Also, we're sending an OverCover which was designed for dry below-freezing weather testing - but we are getting reports from early adopters that it is also being used with good results for colder above-freezing temperatures. This is an optional accessory and the set up tips are already listed on the 4 season system bag. We intended to test this separately but realize it could take another year to obtain the results so we're including it with the pads.

Edited by richard295 on 03/18/2005 20:11:02 MST.

Shelly Skye
(shelly) - F
hammock insulation on 03/18/2005 23:01:21 MST Print View

Excellent response. Thank you for your information. It looks like I'll have to come up with an underquilt of my own in the 1.5 inch range. I'm going to use it this summer in the High Sierras during July so won't need to have it be too warm...about the 40 degree range. Thanks again for your time.

Richard Nisley
(richard295) - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
40 degrees requires 1 1/2" for an underpad on 03/19/2005 01:52:03 MST Print View

As a woman requiring a 40 degree comfort level you need an insulation value of approximately .9 mkv. This translates into about 1 1/2 inches of down or synthetic insulation. You have obviously done your homework as to what you require. Please let us know what you do to provide your required insulation and what your Sierra Mountains experiences are.

Edited by richard295 on 03/19/2005 18:24:20 MST.

john Tier
(Peter_pan) - M

Locale: Co-Owner Jacks 'R' Better, LLC, VA
hammock insulation on 05/24/2005 20:19:12 MDT Print View

Check out www.jacksrbetter.com.

paul schnoes
(pauls)
Check out what Sgt Rock says on 06/08/2005 13:28:48 MDT Print View

Sgt Rock (trail name for a real Army First Sgt) is a big fan of the the Hennessy Hammock. Check out what he says at http://www.hikinghq.net/gear/hennessey_hammock.html and else where on his site.