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Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
BPL Beartooth Hoody vs. I/O Bio Merino Hoody on 12/01/2010 07:07:40 MST Print View

If anyone has been eagerly waiting for the BPL Beartooth Hoody to be restocked in the BPL store and have been met with disappointment at the lack of availability then I definitely recommend picking up an I/O Bio Merino hoody. I did a quick from the couch side by side comparison of the two baselayers and must say I prefer the I/O Bio Merino over the Beartooth immediately.

Here's why:

Cost: I/O Bio Merino Hoody $53.98 right now @ Backcountry.com vs. $104.49 for the BPL Beartooth.


* Sorry, Backcountry.com ended the $53.98 SALE. Full retail on the I/O Bio Merino is $89.

Weight: 160g/m2 vs. 150 g/m2
(The ever so thicker merino in the I/O Bio is hardly noticeable but feels more substantial and less "frail"... not that the BPL Beartooth Hoody is frail, but it has always felt a wee on the thin side)
Piece weighs about 9oz.

Color: I picked one up in Dark Navy blue w/ yellow flatlock seams and it's more subtle and less "techy" in appearance. I/O Bio is also available in black w/ red stictching for all the deathmetal UL backpackers or angsty hikers.

*The BPL Beartooth is a 2-Tone green/gray and looks a touch ridiculous IMO when worn off trail, which is fine since it's a performance piece. I'm aware of it's limitations in that dept.

Fit: I/O Bio Merino hoody fits better overall. The cut is more effective and there are no baggy areas so it fits closer to the body all around. I would call the cut athletic in design. I was never completely satisfied with the the baggy cut around the chest area on the Beartooth hoody. My size small fit roomy in the chest and upper arms and tapered really tight down to the bottom waist hem. The hem on the I/O Bio merino hoody is long like the Beartooth for layering and extra coverage. I/O Bio also has great arm length for tall wearers.


Content: 96% Merino 4% Elastane

* I don't know the fabric specs of the BPL Beartooth Hoody, both pieces feel comparable in terms of hand feel and next to skin feel. Both have a healthy amount of Merino.

Subtle details:

- Balaclava style hood
- Thumbholes
- Zipper garage (*BPL Beartooth doesn't have this feature)
- Flatlock seams


Concensus:

This is in no way to diminish the quality or greatness of the BPL Beartooth Hoody, because that piece has worked great for me over the last year or so on trips and trail runs, but just to show there are other affordable options to a highly sought after garment.

I'd honestly say that you'd be hard pressed to find much in the Beartooth hoody that you can't find in the I/O Bio Merino hoody, both are comparable.

Edited by Eugeneius on 12/01/2010 07:12:10 MST.

Mark Ryan
(Sixguns01)

Locale: Somewhere. Probably lost.
Bio Hoody wieght? on 12/01/2010 07:33:20 MST Print View

Which hoody are you referring to for IO Bio? The one I found on the website said it weighed 260g/m2. It's the Men's Signature Hoodigan for $119. Can you provide a link to the one you talking about? Thanks

Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
"BPL Beartooth Hoody vs. I/O Bio Merino Hoody" on 12/01/2010 07:45:48 MST Print View

I/O Bio Men\'s Contact 1 Glory Zip- Merino Hoody

Stephan Doyle
(StephanCal)
I/O on 12/01/2010 12:37:11 MST Print View

I/O Bio Merino rocks. I have a few pieces from them. Good deals available at BackCountry or SteepAndCheap regularly.

Wish I would've seen that deal on the hoody. At least my wallet thanks me, eh?

Here There
(cowexnihilo) - MLife
Re: BPL Beartooth Hoody vs. I/O Bio Merino Hoody on 12/01/2010 17:20:59 MST Print View

I absolutely concur. The I/O hoody has been fantastic for me so far, and I do prefer the fit to the beartooth. Great product.

Mark Ryan
(Sixguns01)

Locale: Somewhere. Probably lost.
I/O BIO HOODY FIT on 12/02/2010 04:43:42 MST Print View

I have the BPL hoody Large and the fit is a bit snug. How does the Bio fit?

Also- Anyone use the Ibex Hooded Indie?

Edited by Sixguns01 on 12/02/2010 05:07:20 MST.

Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
"BPL Beartooth Hoody vs. I/O Bio Merino Hoody" on 12/02/2010 05:32:48 MST Print View

@ Mark,

The I/O Bio Hoody fits snug as well. The fit is however more consistent all around the body with no baggy areas in the arms or upper torso.

Scott Truong
(elf773) - M

Locale: Vancouver, BC
RE: IO/BIO hoody fit. on 12/02/2010 07:10:11 MST Print View

Is it tight/cut like the icebreaker 150g baselayer stuff?

I think icebreaker calls it the beast line, cheapest LS they have, think around $69.

Mitchell Murphy
(Texico) - F

Locale: North Georgia
Ibex Hooded Indie on 12/02/2010 10:52:04 MST Print View

I have the Hooded Indie from Ibex. Had it for a few weeks now, but I've taken it on several day hikes and even exercised in it to see how it feels/fits. I really like the piece. It is 195g/m^2, so a bit heavier than the two being discussed here, but I feel like it is going to be the perfect piece for my winter layering system as a baselayer. The fit is snug but not tight, say an athletic fit versus a compression/fitted piece. I love the thumb holes and the balaclava style hood is nice. I'm 5'9" 140lbs.

Mark Ryan
(Sixguns01)

Locale: Somewhere. Probably lost.
Re: Ibex Hooded Indie on 12/02/2010 11:30:05 MST Print View

Mitchell-
What size is your Ibex? I'm little bit more rounder than you. 5'10 at 185+. Look at the picture; illustrates much of my non-hiking life.

Mark

Mitchell Murphy
(Texico) - F

Locale: North Georgia
Ibex Hooded Indie on 12/02/2010 13:46:15 MST Print View

Whoops, completely missed that I didn't post the size. I bought a medium.

I'll probably be looking to get a 150g/m^2 wool piece when spring rolls around. The Indie is nice, but in 75-85*F temps I was definitely getting pretty warm.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
smartwool on 12/02/2010 17:23:07 MST Print View

I emailed smartwool sometime ago (month or so) and asked about a lightweight hoody (ie their retired Shadowy Hoody)- they said one was in the works for this spring :)

James Horner
(jbob19) - F

Locale: Ontario
Sherpagear on 01/17/2011 18:54:12 MST Print View

I talked to a sherpa gear rep today and got some info on the Kushi hoody.

sherpa adventure Gear
Kushi top
17.5 micron
140 g/m2

http://www.sherpaadventuregear.com/mens/khushi-top.php

I can get one of these in a large blue colour from the rep but I really need the grey colour. If anyone knows where to buy one of these online then let me know.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Re: smartwool on 03/23/2011 17:57:09 MDT Print View

Mike said on 12/02/10 "I emailed smartwool sometime ago (month or so) and asked about a lightweight hoody (ie their retired Shadowy Hoody)- they said one was in the works for this spring :)"

today they said "In Fall 2011 (August), we are introducing our new line of Lightweight Next To Skin, which will not include a Hoody. But in Fall we are going to make a Midwight Hoody for both men and women."

well so much for Smartwool :(

going to look into both the I/O and Ibex hoody

Nico .
(NickB) - MLife

Locale: Los Padres National Forest
Ibex Hoody on 03/23/2011 18:06:44 MDT Print View

I picked up one of the Ibex hoodies off their clearance page recently. I'm liking it! Super comfy, fits well as a base layer or a light mid layer over a thin shirt, and pretty warm for how thin it is.

I'm really stoked on this as a thin insulation layer for while on the move.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Ibex fit on 03/23/2011 18:17:43 MDT Print View

can you comment on fit on the hooded Indie?

Nico .
(NickB) - MLife

Locale: Los Padres National Forest
Ibex Hoody Fit on 03/23/2011 20:37:45 MDT Print View

Hey Mike,

It's got a little bit of an athletic cut but seems to be pretty true to size. I'm 5'10", 200 lbs with a 43" chest and a size Large is perfect for me. It's just baggy enough to layer over a thin shirt comfortably or wear it by itself without a whole lot of extra fabric.

-Nick

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
perfect! on 03/23/2011 20:50:50 MDT Print View

great, I'm just about the same size :) thank you

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Indie on 04/08/2011 07:05:40 MDT Print View

just received a Ibex Hooded Indie in size Large and the fit is perfect! material is light, but doesn't feel frail like some of the very lightest merino, the hood is very functional- have seen several hoody models where the hood appeared to be an after thought, the zipper is nice and long and should prove valuable for venting, 10.1 oz

should have an opportunity next weekend to test drive it :)

Jason Delso
(zencarver) - MLife

Locale: DFW
Indie hood on 04/08/2011 09:28:39 MDT Print View

The hood on the Indie doesn't fit my alien noggin very well. The stretch in the I/O Bio Contact 1 Glory Zip (friggin' awkward name that I had to Google to get right) allowed the hood to fit me much better.